GUTTED !!!!

Nutnut said:
A whole year :confused:. Have you let the dealer know to contact you in case they have a cancelled order they could offer? Probably a slim chance, but you never know.

At least you still have the sky roof though.
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Yes, i asked the dealer if there were anything they could do, now that this is an insurance claim case, he called me back, saying that he had asked, but there were nothing he could do to speed up the process. I had hoped, MG might have a small reserve for these kinds of cases, or something, but that was not the case.

He promised me that if he was in any way able to get me a car sooner, he would, but i am not feeling optimistic.

I can only see 2 cases where i get a car sooner.

1. MG is able to up the output from their factory, so that they send more cars than they had first anticipated.

2. The looming economic crash materialises, and people that has an order in, cancel's the order because they can now no longer afford to buy the car.
 
I totally feel your pain right now and you have my complete sympathy in all aspects.
I think the other driver was extremely lucky not to receive a date for court.
Had he been under the influence of anything, they would have had no other option than to arrest him and then bring a prosecution.
It’s been an expensive lesson for him also,but the disappointingly likely hood, is that because he is driving a gas guzzler, he will receive a replacement car more quickly than yourself !.
I can even imagine what you felt, when you received that accident text to your phone !.
When out driving my EV right now, I drive the car as if it was made of paper.
In the knowledge that if it gets damaged by somebody driving badly, it will off the road for ages given the poor supply of spare parts and a replacement cars etc.
I guess because their was no real intent or malice to damage either car, the police are treating it purely and simply as an accident.
It is hard to accept there judgement from your side of the fence, I totally get that as the innocence party here.
Wrong place at the wrong time ?.
I sincerely hope that your dealer is able to offer you a cancelled order at some point in the near future, good luck and good health ( which is priceless ).
 
Lovemyev said:
I totally feel your pain right now and you have my complete sympathy in all aspects.
I think the other driver was extremely lucky not to receive a date for court.
Had he been under the influence of anything, they would have had no other option than to arrest him and then bring a prosecution.
It’s been an expensive lesson for him also,but the disappointingly likely hood, is that because he is driving a gas guzzler, he will receive a replacement car more quickly than yourself !.
I can even imagine what you felt, when you received that accident text to your phone !.
When out driving my EV right now, I drive the car as if it was made of paper.
In the knowledge that if it gets damaged by somebody driving badly, it will off the road for ages given the poor supply of spare parts and a replacement cars etc.
I guess because their was no real intent or malice to damage either car, the police are treating it purely and simply as an accident.
It is hard to accept there judgement from your side of the fence, I totally get that as the innocence party here.
Wrong place at the wrong time ?.
I sincerely hope that your dealer is able to offer you a cancelled order at some point in the near future, good luck and good health ( which is priceless ).
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Yes, i find it shocking he was not even given a "simple fine"

I looked at a Danish used car buying and selling site, and there is a 2016 Ford Mustang Convertible V8 5.0 liter for sale.

All he has to pay is £560 in own risk on his insurance, and then i suspect his insurance will probably go up, and probably on all 3 of his cars, the Mustang is only insured half of the year, as he deregisters and winter stores it in the winter.

So yeah, if he gets the insurance money next week like i expect to do, he will be able to have a comparable car to the one he smashed, in a week or so and can continue driving like a madman while i am out buying another car to replace mine until i can get my car replaced. Right now i am considering buying another Corsa, just slightly newer.

The problem is that right now is THE most insane time to be buying a car, the absolute cheapest i can get a 2016 Corsa right now here is £9000

I can offcourse sell the 2012 Corsa we also have, when i get the ZS EV, but by that time the market has probably stabilised, and i will get a fraction of the money back.

So realistically he gets away with a bit of own risk and a bit of a raised insurance rate, and when this is all over, i will have "lost" 5000-6000 pounds and the only gains i have had for that money is a car that is 4 years newer than the one i had.

There is no doubt in my mind that his actions will cost me A LOT more money, that it will cost him, even if we had 0% blame in this.

Right now we have decided to wait 2 months before doing anything, as in a good month my wife will undergo some unrelated surgery, and will not be able to drive a car for a month, but i dont think the situation regarding car prices are going to change a lot, and i highly doubt they will be able to move the delivery date of the ZS EV forward.

And regarding the messages. It's both good and bad, but i can tell you that even though i am certainly not directly affected by this, the was as my wife and kids, it is very hard to have your car send you messages that it has crashed and deployed airbags. NOT messages you would want, neither because of the potential for your family to be hurt, nor for the fact that you just know that "Collission warning & Airbags deployed warning" means that the car is most likely a writeoff.

The "No malice" i a fair and valid point, but in most accidents there is "No malice" or intent.

If i run a red light, i am probably not doing it because i am a bad person, i probably do it because i was being distracted or something, but that does not mean, that what i did was not wrong.

This guy was partially out of his car, and luckily for him he was "thrown" back inside before the car sped backwards into our car, but if he had been squashed between the car and the concrete barriers on the side, which he scraped the car along, and had lost an arm, or a leg or gotten seriously hurt i would be "Okay, that would be enough punishment" but he was totally unharmed, his wife was checked out at the hospital and released the same day, and next day he was posting cosy pictures on his facebook of him and his wife, on a nice boating trip and a nice restaurant visit, so he was (luckily) not damaged in any way at all. For this reason i think that the "law" should give him some sort of "reminder" that what he did was very reckless (Not securing his car was in park or neutral, before getting out).

And yes, i also hope the dealer is able to get me a car sooner than the date on the contract.

If not the countdown starts today, as the delivery date is today....2023....
 
hmadsen said:
Yes, i find it shocking he was not even given a "simple fine"

I looked at a Danish used car buying and selling site, and there is a 2016 Ford Mustang Convertible V8 5.0 liter for sale.

All he has to pay is £560 in own risk on his insurance, and then i suspect his insurance will probably go up, and probably on all 3 of his cars, the Mustang is only insured half of the year, as he deregisters and winter stores it in the winter.

So yeah, if he gets the insurance money next week like i expect to do, he will be able to have a comparable car to the one he smashed, in a week or so and can continue driving like a madman while i am out buying another car to replace mine until i can get my car replaced. Right now i am considering buying another Corsa, just slightly newer.

The problem is that right now is THE most insane time to be buying a car, the absolute cheapest i can get a 2016 Corsa right now here is £9000

I can offcourse sell the 2012 Corsa we also have, when i get the ZS EV, but by that time the market has probably stabilised, and i will get a fraction of the money back.

So realistically he gets away with a bit of own risk and a bit of a raised insurance rate, and when this is all over, i will have "lost" 5000-6000 pounds and the only gains i have had for that money is a car that is 4 years newer than the one i had.

There is no doubt in my mind that his actions will cost me A LOT more money, that it will cost him, even if we had 0% blame in this.

Right now we have decided to wait 2 months before doing anything, as in a good month my wife will undergo some unrelated surgery, and will not be able to drive a car for a month, but i dont think the situation regarding car prices are going to change a lot, and i highly doubt they will be able to move the delivery date of the ZS EV forward.

And regarding the messages. It's both good and bad, but i can tell you that even though i am certainly not directly affected by this, the was as my wife and kids, it is very hard to have your car send you messages that it has crashed and deployed airbags. NOT messages you would want, neither because of the potential for your family to be hurt, nor for the fact that you just know that "Collission warning & Airbags deployed warning" means that the car is most likely a writeoff.

The "No malice" i a fair and valid point, but in most accidents there is "No malice" or intent.

If i run a red light, i am probably not doing it because i am a bad person, i probably do it because i was being distracted or something, but that does not mean, that what i did was not wrong.

This guy was partially out of his car, and luckily for him he was "thrown" back inside before the car sped backwards into our car, but if he had been squashed between the car and the concrete barriers on the side, which he scraped the car along, and had lost an arm, or a leg or gotten seriously hurt i would be "Okay, that would be enough punishment" but he was totally unharmed, his wife was checked out at the hospital and released the same day, and next day he was posting cosy pictures on his facebook of him and his wife, on a nice boating trip and a nice restaurant visit, so he was (luckily) not damaged in any way at all. For this reason i think that the "law" should give him some sort of "reminder" that what he did was very reckless (Not securing his car was in park or neutral, before getting out).

And yes, i also hope the dealer is able to get me a car sooner than the date on the contract.

If not the countdown starts today, as the delivery date is today....2023....
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Sorry never works in these situations my friend, but I really do feel SO sorry that you have been dropped in this unfortunate situation.
Your right bout it being a bad time to buy a second hand car right now.
It is the same in the U.K. and has been this way for about twelve months now.
I follow a few guys on YouTube who buy damaged cars from Copart and then repair them for a profit, but they have said that even these cars are fetching stupid money right now !.
I think you are wise to take a step back right now, until your wife has fully recovered and look at it again.
This type of thing can put you completely off buying another new car !.
Gutted - Does not come even come close to how you must be feeling right now.
Getting them text messages would have made me instantly sick with worry for my family and then, what’s happened to my car !.
 
I wonder if this driver is a friend of the police commissioner or someone similar high up in the police force, because I can't belive he didn't get a fine, points on his license and/or a driver retraining course. I really feel that you have had no justice from this incident (I refuse to call it an accident). Regarding a vehicle, do you have a car subscription service in Netherlands which could tide you over until a ZS becomes available?
 
Lovemyev said:
Sorry never works in these situations my friend, but I really do feel SO sorry that you have been dropped in this unfortunate situation.
Your right bout it being a bad time to buy a second hand car right now.
It is the same in the U.K. and has been this way for about twelve months now.
I follow a few guys on YouTube who buy damaged cars from Copart and then repair them for a profit, but they have said that even these cars are fetching stupid money right now !.
I think you are wise to take a step back right now, until your wife has fully recovered and look at it again.
This type of thing can put you completely off buying another new car !.
Gutted - Does not come even come close to how you must be feeling right now.
Getting them text messages would have made me instantly sick with worry for my family and then, what’s happened to my car !.
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To be honest, if they had said "6 months" i would probably have talked it over with the family, and maybe we would have been able to make do, with the smaller car we have.

To be fair, now that the ZS EV is officially totalled we will save money on insurance and road tax, and the relatively few times a month where we do "NEED to go somewhere as a family, could have been managed by loaning my parents Skoda Roomster or maybe even taken a taxi or rented a car, but a whole year...And possibly more, is a looong time to have to do without.

I also have about 5-10 days a year where i go somewhere, and stay at a hotel overnight, with work, and i dont feel like taking the car, and then the wife can not really go anywhere with the kids while i am away.

I am hoping....But certainly not expecting, that the market has changed a bit for the better in a few months, as the recession sets in.

Yeah, those SMS'es were not very nice to receive.

Called my wife instantly and she was quite impressed that i called her almost before she had composed herself enough to get out of the car. :)

But she knew it was no coincidense that i called, and she just said "We are okay....It was NOT my fault". I think she knew that had she wrecked our new car that she knew i loved very much, she would have been in big trouble :) :) :)

But as i told her...I am glad you did not take the Corsa, it would not have protected you nearly as well, being an older, and smaller car....Even though i wish that it was that car that was smashed instead of the ZS EV :)

When buying the ZS EV i told my wife, that this was a good time to buy a new car, as it might take years before the market returns fully to "before" and now we were safe, because we would not have to buy anything for the next many years.
 
Gadget Geek said:
I wonder if this driver is a friend of the police commissioner or someone similar high up in the police force, because I can't belive he didn't get a fine, points on his license and/or a driver retraining course. I really feel that you have had no justice from this incident (I refuse to call it an accident). Regarding a vehicle, do you have a car subscription service in Netherlands which could tide you over until a ZS becomes available?
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My wife is going to write an e.mail to the police chief at the police station where the police officer works. Mostly to get written confirmation that he is not getting any kind of punishment, this can then be taken to the media.

Maybe the police officer was misinformed or maybe the decision was made poorly.

She will add pictures of the car, and a link to a onedrive folder with the dashcam video. The smart thing about a onedrive link is that i get notified if the link is opened, so i will know if they saw the video.

I am from Denmark, and i can lease a car and/or rent a car, but leases are usually more than a year, and renting a car for a year is going to be a LOT more expensive than just buying another car.
I am not on a vendetta, but on the other hand, i REALLY strongly believe that justice has NOT been served, if he is let off without so much as a fine for dangerous driving.

This happened at a toll booth, but the road before and after the toll booth is the motorway, and no matter the reason i think that if you cause an accident on the motorway, because you reversed, you should be atleast fined, if not asked to retake your license.

I found a news article about a guy that caused an accident because he chose to reverse on the motorway because he missed his exit.

His punishment was 30 days in jail and he lost his license.

This was offcourse "on purpose" as opposed to this guy, but the outcome in both cases were the same, so how there can be SO big of a difference in the punishment is strange.
 
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