Can we eliminate the creep?

I do. And I did.
Auto hold engages if you press the brake pedal hard, but as the creep function is briefly working against the brake it make the car very jerky at around 2 mph.
I have found nothing in the manual about disengaging the creep. If you have come across it, please tell me where in the manual it is as I must have drifted off to sleep by then.
 
I use the brake pedal to come to a full stop, if foot is kept on the brake pedal the power meter shows the car is using power as it tries to overcome the brake pedal (creep). When I have come to a full stop and before taking foot off the brake pedal I pull the hand brake switch (not the "P" button on the drive selector) then remove foot from brake pedal. Car is held on hand break but still in "D" and power meter shows zero energy being used. To move off gently press accelerator pedal which auotmatically releases the hand brake. Works for me with my MG4. BTW autohold does not seem to work on the MG4, possible software problem?
 
Thanks. It sounds good. If both MGs have the same logic it should work.
I've no ideas about the autohold issue on the 4. but I'm a dinosaur when it comes to software. I found with the Zs that you have to push the brake pedal quite a long way down before autohold engages.
 
The "hold" function cannot be switched on (in the infotainment screen) with my MG4, hence I was thinking yet another software problem. Perhaps other owners could comment?
 
Jef said:
The "hold" function cannot be switched on (in the infotainment screen) with my MG4, hence I was thinking yet another software problem. Perhaps other owners could comment?
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This is the ZS forum you may want to ask on the MG4 forum :)
 
As U understand it, certainly on the mm 1 ZS, you press the button next to the handbrake and Autohold comes on. In this mode whenever you fully stop, the handbrake is engaged and there is NO creep. When you press the accelerator, the brake comes off and you move forward.

In the other mode, with Auto hold NOT on, the car works like a normal automatic and will creep.
Simples!
 
JerryB said:
Thanks for your responses. I've tried most of these.
The issue in Exeter is that there are huge changes of slope. My most frequent city journey takes me down one side of the valley through some of the country's slowest rush hour congestion and up the other side. I'd hoped an electric car would be ideal for this. In some places the slope will stop the car, then without warning it starts to move again. In other places using the footbrake brings the car to a stop, but it doesn't always engage auto hold and the car unexpectedly moves forward.
I have tried pushing the brake pedal down firmly after I think the car has come to a stop, where in a manual car I'd have engaged the handbrake. As the creep forward function seems to engage about this point doing this has made the car feel very jerky & uncomfortable. I was hoping to be able to drive more smoothly than this.
I'll try using neutral, though I'm a little worried the car may roll back. I use neutral to roll backwards off my driveway which slopes down to the road.
Ideally I'd like simply to permanently disengage the creep forward function. In some situations its too fast, in others too slow and the car is often using power to try to move while you have your foot on the brake. I just can't understand why anyone would want it.
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I believe when you stop in traffic you should always engage neutral and apply the handbrake (or auto hold ) . Worked for me for over forty years and never worn a clutch out .(In the days before EV's).
 
AndyL61 said:
I believe when you stop in traffic you should always engage neutral and apply the handbrake (or auto hold ) . Worked for me for over forty years and never worn a clutch out .(In the days before EV's).
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FYI, Auto hold doesn't apply the handbrake, it applies the footbrakes on all four wheels and brake lights.
 
Tim Green said:
As U understand it, certainly on the mm 1 ZS, you press the button next to the handbrake and Autohold comes on. In this mode whenever you fully stop, the handbrake is engaged and there is NO creep. When you press the accelerator, the brake comes off and you move forward.

In the other mode, with Auto hold NOT on, the car works like a normal automatic and will creep.
Simples!
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Nearly. Autohold maintains the pressure in the brake hydraulics until you press accelerator pedal enough to move the car, it doesn't put the handbrake on & off that's separate.
 
You only need to touch the accelerator sl
JerryB said:
Thanks for your responses. I've tried most of these.
The issue in Exeter is that there are huge changes of slope. My most frequent city journey takes me down one side of the valley through some of the country's slowest rush hour congestion and up the other side. I'd hoped an electric car would be ideal for this. In some places the slope will stop the car, then without warning it starts to move again. In other places using the footbrake brings the car to a stop, but it doesn't always engage auto hold and the car unexpectedly moves forward.
I have tried pushing the brake pedal down firmly after I think the car has come to a stop, where in a manual car I'd have engaged the handbrake. As the creep forward function seems to engage about this point doing this has made the car feel very jerky & uncomfortable. I was hoping to be able to drive more smoothly than this.
I'll try using neutral, though I'm a little worried the car may roll back. I use neutral to roll backwards off my driveway which slopes down to the road.
Ideally I'd like simply to permanently disengage the creep forward function. In some situations its too fast, in others too slow and the car is often using power to try to move while you have your foot on the brake. I just can't understand why anyone would want it.
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You only need to touch the accelerator lightly to disable the auto hold, keep your foot well away from it, this is the only reason it comes off auto hold once applied, happened to me a few times so speaking from experience.
 
Webbo said:
You only need to touch the accelerator sl

You only need to touch the accelerator lightly to disable the auto hold, keep your foot well away from it, this is the only reason it comes off auto hold once applied, happened to me a few times so speaking from experience.
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What happens on mine is it only releases on a slope once you have pressed the gas pedal enough for it to presumably sense the wheels trying to turn in the right direction!

On the flat it's just touch it as you say, but on slopes you either boot it & deal with the neck snap, or practice feathering it in until you feel it disengage.
 
I just press the little parking brake button rather than the P on the drive select. To move off just accelerate. That way you don't have to re engage drive.
 
JerryB said:
Thanks for your responses. I've tried most of these.
The issue in Exeter is that there are huge changes of slope. My most frequent city journey takes me down one side of the valley through some of the country's slowest rush hour congestion and up the other side. I'd hoped an electric car would be ideal for this. In some places the slope will stop the car, then without warning it starts to move again. In other places using the footbrake brings the car to a stop, but it doesn't always engage auto hold and the car unexpectedly moves forward.
I have tried pushing the brake pedal down firmly after I think the car has come to a stop, where in a manual car I'd have engaged the handbrake. As the creep forward function seems to engage about this point doing this has made the car feel very jerky & uncomfortable. I was hoping to be able to drive more smoothly than this.
I'll try using neutral, though I'm a little worried the car may roll back. I use neutral to roll backwards off my driveway which slopes down to the road.
Ideally I'd like simply to permanently disengage the creep forward function. In some situations its too fast, in others too slow and the car is often using power to try to move while you have your foot on the brake. I just can't understand why anyone would want it.
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After coming to a stop you need to hold your foot on the brake for a short while before auto hold cuts in. I us this function without any creep at all.
 
Piperman said:
After coming to a stop you need to hold your foot on the brake for a short while before auto hold cuts in. I us this function without any creep at all.
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I find if you don't have enough pressure on the brake pedal it doesn't cut in, which to be honest is more useful & matches autohold in other cars I've driven. It seems to come on pretty quick once stopped on mine if you have enough pedal on.
 
AK OK said:
Isn't that the emergency brake button? 😳
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No. That the parking brake. You don't need to touch it in the mg as it is automatically engaged/disengaged with the gear selected. It can be used as an emergency brake in the extremely rare situation where the hydraulic brakes fail by holding it until the car has stopped. Not recommended to try.
 
djenson said:
No. That the parking brake. You don't need to touch it in the mg as it is automatically engaged/disengaged with the gear selected. It can be used as an emergency brake in the extremely rare situation where the hydraulic brakes fail by holding it until the car has stopped. Not recommended to try.
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Parking brake is the P in the middle of the aluminium rotary dial shurely?

Think you're using the emergency brake 😁
 
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