Vanarama Issues

Finally others are seeing the pain that I have had to endure over the past year with Hotlush. A pointless character continually quoting nonsense as if some sort of Vanarama legal expert...

Anyway for info I've cancelled the order, didn't pay the 350. Offered to take it off the wall and post it back to them in a cardboard box, they decided no to that surprisingly and the matter is now closed no payments to be made in future and no car being delivered.
The end.

I wasn't prepared to wait until May and go through the same hassle as in October all over again.

Worked out well in the end I guess but still a lot of hassle and drama. (Amazingly though no CCJ which the forum lawyer predicted).

Even with my new (year old) charger, I will probably just get a petrol car for now. The novelty has worn off and the free car charge points are finished in my local area, so all the benefits there was at the time of the deal have gone.

Maybe the home charger will get turned on some point in a couple of years if electric cars come down in price!

Good luck to the rest with your charger battles, keep at it and you will get there.
 
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Sorry that the discussion has turned aggressive and into a bit of a car crash.

My non-tested view is that the charger was offered as part of the contract. They can remove it or have it back as it’s their issue.

other lease companies may also be having problems, but then the trade body they are members of, or themselves as a collective should get approach MG for answers.

Vanarama maintain they are in contact with MG but there is little evidence provided what effort they are putting in. It may be they are - but all They provide is the same pre-planned corporate message.
 
AndyMG1 said:
Sorry that the discussion has turned aggressive and into a bit of a car crash.
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If you think their reaction to the real world legal situation, and having a link to actual legal advice from an actual legal professional was bad; wait until they find out they're not getting the free insurance, and probably won't get the gift card/cashback either, as both of those offers have expired.
 
Hotlush said:
If you think their reaction to the real world legal situation, and having a link to actual legal advice from an actual legal professional was bad; wait until they find out they're not getting the free insurance, and probably won't get the gift card/cashback either, as both of those offers have expired.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. I already have it in writing from vanarama that the free insurance and voucher will be honoured as it was the offer when I ordered the car. You literally are contributing nothing of value.

And he is clearly referring to you as the car crash poster 🤣
 
Sam2909 said:
You have no idea what you are talking about. I already have it in writing from vanarama that the free insurance and voucher will be honoured as it was the offer when I ordered the car. You literally are contributing nothing of value.
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I've literally just completed my change of order and they stated the free insurance offer is no longer available on any vehicle.
Might be because I changed the order, but perhaps you should ring them and check nothings changed.

This you?;
"Here's hotlush again boring everyone with his assertion that anything written on paper can be enforced in a court regardless of extenuating circumstances such as ridiculously long delays".

Vanarama Issues

I don't care anymore, I only ordered it cos it was cheap and could have saved some money with electric and a regular 70 mile journey we were doing. But it's been so long now we don't even do that journey anymore and it now costs just as much to run as petrol. So they can stick there charger...
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Babylon said:
I don't care anymore, I only ordered it cos it was cheap and could have saved some money with electric and a regular 70 mile journey we were doing.
But it's been so long now we don't even do that journey anymore and it now costs just as much to run as petrol.
So they can stick there charger were the sun don't shine and come and take it back, and make good my wall and pay me back the 160 quid i payed to have an isolation switch installed.
What is a joke is that they are gonna have to make some sort of decision sooner or later, Do they not see this as unacceptable, We order this car in November 21, It's now January 23, What do they expect people to do, As I said I don't care if I get the car or not, but I'm pay sweet FA for that dox on my wall that I don't even know works anymore, I turned it off after it just sat there flashing purple.
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As I've said I don't have any stake in this debate but your statement that an EV costs as much to run as petrol is absolute nonsense, maybe if you couldn't charge at home it gets close,, but with a home charger it's not even remotely close
 
Leni16 said:
As I've said I don't have any stake in this debate but your statement that an EV costs as much to run as petrol is absolute nonsense, maybe if you couldn't charge at home it gets close,, but with a home charger it's not even remotely close
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Maybe not as much to run, But the top of the range ZS EV is £35,495,00 The absolute top of the range ZS ICE is £22,795,00.
That's nearly £13,000 pound difference in price, That 13 grand alone would last me 5-6 years in petrol, I'm not doing it, But you can work out how many years it will take to get that back, But I'll put money on it we are in the realm of 7-8 years, And with the average mileage most drive you may never get that back.
So no, There not cheaper to run anymore.
 
Not the only reason for buying an ev though is it? And who wants a crap petrol MG ZS. Each to their own. I still have petrol second car and it cost me £50 to fill up yesterday and the range is showing as about 386 miles ((get about 44mpg running about town) that £50 will charge my EV over 8 times and even during the cold snap that gets me over 1500 miles.

Anyway as I said each to their own and I get you are comparing like for like ZS's but a petrol ZS is not a like for like comparison to a modern ground up EV.

An MG4 SE SR is £27000 ish and I would have that every day of the week over the petrol ZS you are mentioning.
 
Sorry, But something smells off, Let say you pay rock bottom to charge at home at 24p kWh(Not likely), you have a car with let's say a 70kwh battery so that's about £17 to charge, At best you get 4 miles per kwh(Again not likely) is 280miles.
So by my calculations with absolutely super best case scenario 50 quid gets about 800 miles, Yet you manage over 1500 miles, Well I'll have what your driving or what your smoking, Whichever one is some good gear.
 
Dpc said:
Vanarama can't enforce something that they didn't install or claim a government grant for as that was done by a 3rd party company.

Most are just sitting waiting to see what happens as most are also due a £250 gift card from Vanarama as part of the black Friday promo.

I have had to buy another make do vehicle and work will be starting a salary sacrifice scheme very soon which I will probably move forward with unless a positive order update is due.
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I’m still waiting, but I have extended my current lease 3 times now and they keep putting the price up.
 
Babylon said:
Sorry, But something smells off, Let say you pay rock bottom to charge at home at 24p kWh(Not likely), you have a car with let's say a 70kwh battery so that's about £17 to charge, At best you get 4 miles per kwh(Again not likely) is 280miles.
So by my calculations with absolutely super best case scenario 50 quid gets about 800 miles, Yet you manage over 1500 miles, Well I'll have what your driving or what your smoking, Whichever one is some good gear.
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I'm on 7.5p kWh on octopus go but that's the old rate.
You can though still get 12p on that rate if you take it now, which would give you 1600 miles by your calculation.
 
Babylon said:
Sorry, But something smells off, Let say you pay rock bottom to charge at home at 24p kWh(Not likely), you have a car with let's say a 70kwh battery so that's about £17 to charge, At best you get 4 miles per kwh(Again not likely) is 280miles.
So by my calculations with absolutely super best case scenario 50 quid gets about 800 miles, Yet you manage over 1500 miles, Well I'll have what your driving or what your smoking, Whichever one is some good gear.
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Just as well your not doing my accounts also thanks for telling me what I'm paying for my electricity.
For your info, not that I need to explain myself as you've basically called me a liar and hinted I'm smoking something.
I'm on octopus intelligent that's 10p kWh, I get that for 6 hours a night. My car has a 60kw battery, I'll add it up slowly for you so you can keep up.. that's £6 from 0-100% if I did it, if I charged my car like that 8 times that is £48, even in the cold I am getting about 190 miles, 8 times that is 1520 miles, hope that it explains it to you, you should really look into things before you accuse someone of lying, that way you won't make a fool of yourself again.
 
Your welcome glad I could teach you something
 
Babylon said:
Maybe not as much to run, But the top of the range ZS EV is £35,495,00 The absolute top of the range ZS ICE is £22,795,00.
That's nearly £13,000 pound difference in price, That 13 grand alone would last me 5-6 years in petrol, I'm not doing it, But you can work out how many years it will take to get that back, But I'll put money on it we are in the realm of 7-8 years, And with the average mileage most drive you may never get that back.
So no, There not cheaper to run anymore.
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But in 5-6 years how much will that 22k ZS ICE be worth ? and how much will the 35k ZS EV be worth?
 
Gomev said:
But in 5-6 years how much will that 22k ZS ICE be worth ? and how much will the 35k ZS EV be worth?
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The electric car won't be worth as much as you think! I know a few people in the " Pushing Tin" trade. The concensus is that in the very near future a lot of lease companies are going to catch a cold. The main reason is that the current electric cars on offer will depreciate sharply ( More than first thought). As we all know, when leasing ( under normal conditions), you really are only paying for the depreciation of the vehicle before it's sold at auction. The lease company or owner of the vehicle then get a return on the their investment. So, if the car depreciates more, the cost of leasing rises to make up the difference . If you have or are currently waiting on a lease deal for an electric car, I suggest you wait. I would only buy an electric car if I did 25k ++ miles a year.
 
I don't know many people who do anything like that mileage in their electric car. Hasn't prevented them buying one, peoples circumstances are all different.
Like I said previous, when I was accused of lying and making stuff up, there are more reasons to buy an electric car than just cost.

Going by the quality of salesmen in the motor trade now I wouldn't believe a thing the say about EV's, the members in here have more knowledge than most of them added together. Some of them are blatantly anti EV and they are supposed to be selling them
 
I wonder how much Tesla owners thought there car was gonna be worth in 5-6 years, It's Reported that a 1 year old Model 3 lost a quarter of it's price in the last four months.
With what Tesla did the other day, Now is the absolute wrong time to buy an EV until one see's were the market is gonna go, There is no doubt there is going to have to be some price adjustment form other manufactures.
The EV revolution has not been going long enough for anyone to know what it will look like in 2 years time let alone 5-6.
 
Tesla's had actually increased in price and then the market got saturated with cars being returned to leasing companies, a lot of the percentage of value they have lost is essentially the over inflated amount they actually increased by when bought. The big percentage drop actually includes that amount.
You only have to look at the Y because it was a new model it had increased in value by over 11% over the purchase price (up to this month) the drop in new price has just removed that increase in nearly new models.
 
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