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I don't think we'd ever expect him to be on the side of anything that may actually improve the planet!

The irony of it is almost too much...

I think it's a fair way behind the Juke in the pig ugly stakes.

Outburst, you're hilarious. Oh, and I'm not debating with you, you misunderstand.

It is a bit much, but the troll deserves it. You're right about the other 2, I reckon the Juke comes in a close second, just beating the Aztec to be fair ;)

OK, gloves off. Proper cars eh? Well as we're going all childish, why not... ;) So would they be the ones that actually look like cars rather than something from a children's cartoon, and don't win awards for being amongst the most hideously ugly cars ever made? Unlike your comedy Juke car...

There's no doubt about it. It would see what is already a two tier system of those who home charge overnight for peanuts, vs those who have to charge exclusively in public at a cost somewhere in the region of ten times higher, exacerbated.

Oh dear, so you are one of those are you? No need to waste any more time debating with you then. :(

So what?

Well it is all about me, after all I'm Asperger's and probably have some narcissistic tendencies as well (My wife says so, so it must be true ;))

I own an ICE like one owns an antique steam roller, it's a collectible, I'm not driving around using it for daily transport. It's emissions are utterly inconsequential. I'm not suggesting I don't cause pollution at all.

You stated they were no better than ICE at all apart from local pollution. I said they were demonstrably better, not green. Was I rude? Serious question, I have Asperger's so tend to be blunt, don't think I was rude, but maybe by normie standards I was. Fair enough on your third paragraph...

For me it's the following: EV's are so much better to drive, with far more elegant engineering and simplicity of maintenance. No local pollution at all, this is essential to get to in towns and cities. Walking down a main road at rush hour is currently hideous in most places. Further, lower...

I have to take issue with you on this. Apart from being free of local pollution, EV's cause demonstrably less pollution over the whole life cycle. You're "nothing more" is nonsense frankly. Also, don't assume most people think like you do and would happily use the sh***est form of polluting ICE...

Never a truer word...

Have you test driven the petrol ZS? I have, just for comparison when I bought my ZS EV. Trust me, you wouldn't want one, they have a really crappy drivetrain. To your question, if I didn't care about the environment, couldn't charge at home, and didn't have much money, I'd buy a Petrol...

lol! fair enough, my memory is crap.. 🤪

Why do you think I have an ICE car? (I do, but it's a '50's classic that mainly sits in the garage and has done an average of about 100 miles a year for the last 33 years!)

I suppose it's all relative, my last petrol car, an Audi A8 was almost that figure for the 12 month minor service which wasn't much more than an oil change! My servicing cost now is zero apart from my own time cleaning the brakes once every year and a half or so. Also, to be fair the 3 year...

Not everyone, but for a large percentage, absolutely. Anyway, it's not all about saving money for those of us who give a s*** about humans having a future on the planet.