How do I tell if my car is a GEN 1 or GEN 2?

I have a September 2022 MG ZS EV Long range, but i don't know how to tell what type of battery is has (I believe there are two types) or whether it is a gen 1 model or gen 2 model. Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
Thanks in advance

tezzflyer said:

I have a September 2022 MD ZS EV Long range, but I don't know how to tell what type of battery is has...

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Only the Mark 2 (face lift) has a long range battery, so you have the Mark 2 / Gen 2 / Facelift. I guess facelift is a bad term, because it's reportedly due for another facelift by the end of the year or next year.

The long range battery is always the NMC (Nickel Manganese Cobalt) type; only the standard range (at least for MG EVs so far) has the Lithium Ferrous Phosphate (LFP) battery type.

Coulomb said:

Only the Mark 2 (face lift) has a long range battery, so you have the Mark 2 / Gen 2 / Facelift. I guess facelift is a bad term, because it's reportedly due for another facelift by the end of the year or next year.

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MG themselves refer to the Mk2 as "MCE" (mid-cycle enhancement), so the "facelift" moniker is very apt, I think. The upcoming Mk3 will likely be based on the same platform as the MG4 and therefore be an entirely new car.

tezzflyer said:

I have a September 2022 MG ZS EV Long range, but i don't know how to tell what type of battery is has (I believe there are two types) or whether it is a gen 1 model or gen 2 model. Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
Thanks in advance

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If you have a gen 2 the nose of the car looks different with a body colour grill and LED lights. The dashboard is revised with a full digital instrument binicle (rather than the gen 1 with analogue needles).

If you have a gen 2, then you can either check the kerb weight on the V5 or, if you reset your trip computer after driving some distance, you should be getting range numbers above 180-200 miles this time of year in the LR, but if you have SR, you'll be more around 130-170 miles. Figures are higher in warmer weather.

Well if there is to be a gen3 facelift, I hope it looks better than the gen2, where the "facelift" is the main reason I won't buy one! Its a misnomer!

Tim Green said:

Well if there is to be a gen3 facelift, I hope it looks better than the gen2, where the "facelift" is the main reason I won't buy one! Its a misnomer!

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There are worse looking cars;

Hi
If your car is 2022 it could be either gen 1 (2019-2021) or gen 2 (2021- present).

There is no long range gen 1 - all three models had the same range, around 160miles fully charged. Gen 1's have a charging port that swings upwards. Gen 2's has a charging port that opens to the left. And as Bodgerx said, Gen 1 has an analogue speedometer (hands), Gen2 has an all digital speedometer.

If you do indeed have a Gen 2, then if your max range is 250 then you have the long range which has a NMC battery (Nickel Manganese Cobalt). If your max range is around 160 then you have the standard range which has a Lithium Ferrous Phosphate battery (LFP).

cheers
nick

Nibloprice said:

If you do indeed have a Gen 2, then if your max range is 250 then you have the long range which has a NMC battery (Nickel Manganese Cobalt). If your max range is around 160 then you have the standard range which has a Lithium Ferrous Phosphate battery (LFP).

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I was at the dealer today for a test drive, which went very well, I liked the car and wife loved it, so if the lease goes through I should have it in a few weeks. I asked about the battery, they said all ZS models here in the Netherlands have the old NMC battery, and the LFP is only available on the standard MG4.

Features of the car may vary from country to country... if and when I get the car, any way I can find out which battery it really has? It will be the regular 51 kWh, 320 km model, not the long range.

tezzflyer said:

I have a September 2022 MG ZS EV Long range, but i don't know how to tell what type of battery is has (I believe there are two types) or whether it is a gen 1 model or gen 2 model. Can anyone point me in the right direction please.
Thanks in advance

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Well they look entirely different to begin with (google some images). In any case, you have a gen 2 given the year and the long range battery (only in a gen 2).

Re. battery chemistry, the long range gen 2 and the earlier gen 1 both have NMC battery chemistry, meaning, charging regularly only to 80% then to 100% & battery balance every six weeks or so. The standard range gen 2 has LFP battery chemistry, meaning we can charge whenever & however we like without concern for battery degradation.

profdraper said:

Re. battery chemistry, the long range gen 2 and the earlier gen 1 both have NMC battery chemistry, meaning, charging regularly only to 80% then to 100% & battery balance every six weeks or so. The standard range gen 2 has LFP battery chemistry, meaning we can charge whenever & however we like without concern for battery degradation.

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That's not quite true. The LFP battery still needs balancing occasionally, and repeated charging between 80 and 100% will wear the battery out faster. The effect is just not as pronounced as in a NMC chemistry.

I generally don't charge the car unless the battery is below 60% or I know I'm planning to go on a longer trip. I also avoid having the car sitting at 100% for more than a day. Both is not strictly necessary, but will prolong battery lifetime.