FORWARD COLLISION AVOIDANCE - not working

[matejF]

But does the MG S5 even have FCA. As if I look in the papers it only have FCA when a pedestrian or a bike is present.

 

[TimothyN]

Um...yes...

Certainly in the UK. Your Slovenian experience may vary, I guess...

 

[matejF]

It says FCA is part of Mg Pilot.
It could be that loading your setting from MG pilot could disable ( bug) your FCA.
Any chance to test it without touching mg pilot.

 

[CarlThom]

So dealer had another look yesterday and just took calibration settings etc.. to submit to MG
I am convinced this FCA does not work at all, which is concerning and it seems as though if there are no visible errors indicated in the logs, then there is nothing they can do
I do wonder if this needs to be reported to the DVSA/VOSA/Thatcham as I am sure this feature is key to the NCAP safety score....

Just wondering why you would rely on FCA instead of just looking where you are going

 

[Warden]

Suppose you had a medical episode and were unable to use your leg for whatever reason the FCA is supposed to stop you from hitting anything and bring the car safely to a stop. Also as others have said its part of the Ncap safety rating. I had a face-lift mg5 for two years and it beeped at just about anything, I've had my S5 for nearly 6 months and it hasn't beeped once. There is definitely something not quite right about this and MG need to investigate.

 

[TimothyN]

Just wondering why you would rely on FCA instead of just looking where you are going

You don't have to "rely" of FCA for it still to be of use. It is the same as any safety system, you hope you are never going to need it, but it's great when you do.

I speak as a pro pilot. My flight deck has tens of systems which fall into this category. Why would you need a gear warning horn if you are going to put the gear down? Ditto stall warning/stick shaker, power loss, you name it. We even put up with being called retards on a regular basis.

I would suggest, @CarlThom , that pride might come before a fall.

 

[Jim Dewd]

Suppose you had a medical episode and were unable to use your leg for whatever reason the FCA is supposed to stop you from hitting anything and bring the car safely to a stop. Also as others have said its part of the Ncap safety rating. I had a face-lift mg5 for two years and it beeped at just about anything, I've had my S5 for nearly 6 months and it hasn't beeped once. There is definitely something not quite right about this and MG need to investigate.

Had the same with my ZS anyone approaching fast from a side junction or getting to close to the car in front alerts and braking would be applied.
They have done the tests on my S5 and no faults found but like others on here I'm still not happy especially after the ZS!!!

 

[dx4100]

I had the same issue as you guys where it just didn't seem to work but today it finally presented itself!

I was driving along a road at around 30mph or less and a car was half pulled out of a side street waiting for a gap to join in the opposite direction. I was preparing to go around and sudden I got the warning beep I would expect (no braking) to warn me the car felt it was about to hit it.

Never had it before, doubtful I will hear it again - but defo go it today.

 

[Guinea Pig]

I had the same issue as you guys where it just didn't seem to work but today it finally presented itself!

I was driving along a road at around 30mph or less and a car was half pulled out of a side street waiting for a gap to join in the opposite direction. I was preparing to go around and sudden I got the warning beep I would expect (no braking) to warn me the car felt it was about to hit it.

Never had it before, doubtful I will hear it again - but defo go it today.

I also had my first and only activation of the FCA this week. Similar situation to yours. Was odd. Never had it before. Unsure if I'll ever have it again lol

 

[neb spen]

we were advised after going back to the dealers that the mgs5 fca only kicks in at higher speeds? no specifics could be provided though and haven't got around to testing it yet. our previous cars (subaru/volvo) would stop you at any speed. have noticed every single system is a bit less refined, less effective and less user friendly than what we had become used to.

 

[matejF]

Just to let you know.

we were advised after going back to the dealers that the mgs5 fca only kicks in at higher speeds? no specifics could be provided though and haven't got around to testing it yet. our previous cars (subaru/volvo) would stop you at any speed. have noticed every single system is a bit less refined, less effective and less user friendly than what we had become used to.

Just to let you know. Your next car will definitely be coming from China. As 99% of all parts of any car come from chine.

 

[neb spen]

Just to let you know.

Just to let you know. Your next car will definitely be coming from China. As 99% of all parts of any car come from chine.

99%! wow, where did you get that figure from? it will be news to mexico, germany, japan and the usa. besides, and we have now learnt the hard way - there's a big difference between having a few components manufactured in another country and using them in a properly developed car than one built entirely by a manufacturer who's focus was more about being the cheapest.

 

[tsedge]

99%! wow, where did you get that figure from? it will be news to mexico, germany, japan and the usa. besides, and we have now learnt the hard way - there's a big difference between having a few components manufactured in another country and using them in a properly developed car than one built entirely by a manufacturer who's focus was more about being the cheapest.

Indeed, it is all around 1/3.... 1/3 of all cars are made in China and 1/3 of all car parts come from China. That's a big percentage but nothing like 99%.

If what is meant is that 99% of cars contain some Chinese parts, I would say it is actually more likely 100%, but that's a quite different thing.

 

[matejF]

99%! wow, where did you get that figure from? it will be news to mexico, germany, japan and the usa. besides, and we have now learnt the hard way - there's a big difference between having a few components manufactured in another country and using them in a properly developed car than one built entirely by a manufacturer who's focus was more about being the cheapest.

There is no company in the world that would prioritise quality above costs.
Every single company looks just hot to lower the costs and make more money.
The quality is going down and we all feel it. Join groups of mercedes, BMW, and others look how much trouble people have.
And then think someone is better.
For us consumers will be trying to get beat value for the money. If the car has flaws you can say" I paid less, so I can live with some flows"

 

[DBedford]

There is no company in the world that would prioritise quality above costs.
Every single company looks just hot to lower the costs and make more money.
The quality is going down and we all feel it. Join groups of mercedes, BMW, and others look how much trouble people have.
And then think someone is better.
For us consumers will be trying to get beat value for the money. If the car has flaws you can say" I paid less, so I can live with some flows"

Sorry matejF you're mistaken, there are a good number of companies that priorities quality over cost, you only need to at Apple or Rolls-Royce.... but if you're just looking at Chinese car manufactures your right, high low cost tech (to draw in the punters (sorry customer), with a 1990's driving and comfort experience which we all seem to accept (including myself). MG at their best are not a patch on a VW from the last 20 years regards drive quality and comfort.

 

[German Paddy]

Sorry, DBedford, I think you are mistaken. I am German and I get always asked why I do not drive a German car? The answer is always the same: They cost too much and are not better. To then throw VW into the mix that gave us 'Dieselgate' only shows me how quick we forget. A typical sign of: In the good old days, everything was better.

 

[tsedge]

Hmmmm....

My dad's 2014 VW Golf: feels solid, integrated, complete and with software that just works and is very well thought out even though it is far out of date. It is almost perfect. This is what I remember VWs used to be like and why I bought them.

My 2016 Golf GTi: very similar, beautifully made and zero faults, loved it for 3 happy years. A few signs of cost-cutting creeping in the interior materials and finish, but basically perfect.

My 2018 Skoda Karoq: cheaply made, rattled, dodgy electronics and poorly-matched gearbox to the car, continual issues many not covered properly by warranty. Comparable Golfs seemed no better.

Early ID.3s: nicely built but awful laggy software that took years to fix and get right. Lacks the looks or "integrated" feel of the older Golfs.

My 2023 MG4: every bit as solidly built physically as the Golfs and ID.3, but with poor software that is hard to update, just as bad as the early ID.3 experience was reported to me. Plus poor aftersales service and even more warranty exclusions.

2025 MG EVs: interior quality now superior to anything I ever had with VW, greatly improved software. Comfort comparable to the German cars. Still issues with aftersales and updates, but slowly seems to be improving.

The Chinese can make high quality goods as easily as low-quality. It is all about the market.

They are improving fast - just as the Japanese did a generation ago. Already comparable in many respects, they'll be ahead before long in quality and comfort, not merely value.