Is my battery advice helping?

[T1 Terry]

Because I'm on the other side of the globe, I don't really understand how the electrical and solar to grid works in other countries.
So, this is a sort of exploratory poll, to gauge which direction any threads I start and replies give, should be oriented.
Tick any box you feel relates to your view on my posts, it will help me to avoid getting to techo but also to avoid sounding like I'm talking down to people from my podium like a lecturer in a kindergarten class ......
I do have 15 yrs of hands on knowledge regarding off grid systems, I was the designer, installer and fault finder via email and phone for T1 Lithium | Custom-built lithium batteries for RVs and off grid...... and still doing that to a degree.

I know very little about grid tie systems, feed back revenue and personally, I'm pro off grid and cutting ties to the grid, but that is an Aust based and fuel opinion ..... the meter box did burn my house and motorhome to the ground, along with everything we owned, so, maybe a tad biased .......

T1 Terry

 

[LenEV2016]

Quality, starting threads!! Go Terry go Terry

 

[T1 Terry]

Adding a question still doesn't really come out as a separate question, will it work ok in this format or should I make separate poll questions?

T1 Terry

 

[Bam Bam]

Love a poll but I'm not sure about repeating the same answers more than once and also what does...

"Do members what DIY info"

mean? Should it be "want" and a question mark on the end?

 

[MG Clive]

Adding a question still doesn't really come out as a separate question, will it work ok in this format or should I make separate poll questions?

T1 Terry

You can only ask one question per poll.

I've edited it slightly for you.

 

[T1 Terry]

Thank you, I can see how that could work. After being fried today and it will be worse tomorrow, the brain is not at 100% of the maybe 70% it seems to be functioning at lately

T1 Terry

 

[decrep]

70% Bonus!
I think I'm running on 50, but it's hard to tell.

 

[Everest]

Not sure what to tick as question 4 seems to be missing...

"Question 4 - Do UK members really want to know how hot is it in Australia right now"?

 

[decrep]

Not sure what to tick as question 4 seems to be missing...

"Question 4 - Do UK members really want to know how hot is it in Australia right now"?

Converse of that is.
Do Australian members really want to know how cold it is in UK right now?

 

[T1 Terry]

Still only 5 relies to the first question, 3 to the second question and 2 to the third question ......
Early days yet I guess

T1 Terry

 

[T1 Terry]

The vote numbers are improving, so that's at least heartening .....

T1 Terry

 

[LenEV2016]

The vote numbers are improving, so that's at least heartening .....

T1 Terry

Also allows a follow up post

 

[T1 Terry]

I would never have thought of that Len but it does get it on the "What's New board for a while The more members that at least see it, the more likely they are to vote .....

T1 Terry

 

[GaryMG4]

I find it interesting what can be done DIY elsewhere and what people have done DIY in the UK. I'm unsure what you are allowed to do in the uk with it's over regulation/protectionism to the point where I'm expecting ting that some day I will be required to call an electrician to turn a light on!

 

[LenEV2016]

I find it interesting what can be done DIY elsewhere and what people have done DIY in the UK. I'm unsure what you are allowed to do in the uk with it's over regulation/protectionism to the point where I'm expecting ting that some day I will be required to call an electrician to turn a light on!

To be fair if we have got to the stage that we have to point out to people not to grease their brake discs then it's not a bad idea for some

 

[Everest]

I'm unsure what you are allowed to do in the uk

IMHO, we are less regulated over here than many other countries (e.g. USA and France)... certainly in terms of electrical work.

 

[T1 Terry]

IMHO, we are less regulated over here than many other countries (e.g. USA and France)... certainly in terms of electrical work.

I've watched a few of the GB tradie You Tube videos where they have been called in to sort electrical issues where the owner has wired up stuff themselves ..... definitely a case of "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
Even making up extension cords in Aust is supposed to be a licenced electrician limited thing, sort of understandable in some senses, but watching what you are doing, the plugs and sockets these days even have the wire colour marked for each position, but properly securing the conductor cables is probably the worst DIY extension cable sin, so easy to simply pull on the cable and disconnect the earth wire if the wires are not secured by looping down through the plug as designed, or retained using the clamping bridge supplied is the conductors are too large to thread through to securing loop system on heavier current designed plugs ....

The UK idea of the fuse in the extension cord plug ..... strange idea to me, surely the circuit should have the fuse ..... that protects the cable in the walls that you can't see so stops over load and short circuit back to earth .....

T1 Terry

 

[GaryMG4]

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The UK idea of the fuse in the extension cord plug ..... strange idea to me, surely the circuit should have the fuse ..... that protects the cable in the walls that you can't see so stops over load and short circuit back to earth .....

T1 Terry

T1 Terry

The fused plug is purely there to protect the cable. Houses are commonly wired with ring mains, so your consumer unit/fuse box has a 32A fuse to protect the cables in the wall that the outlets are connected to. The cable to your dishwasher is only rated at 13amps so it is possible to overload the dishwasher cable before the 32A ring main fuse blows. Probably less of an issue with modern CUs but my last house still had ceramic blocks that you put the appropriately rated fuse wire in and tightened the screws down.

 

[T1 Terry]

The fused plug is purely there to protect the cable. Houses are commonly wired with ring mains, so your consumer unit/fuse box has a 32A fuse to protect the cables in the wall that the outlets are connected to. The cable to your dishwasher is only rated at 13amps so it is possible to overload the dishwasher cable before the 32A ring main fuse blows. Probably less of an issue with modern CUs but my last house still had ceramic blocks that you put the appropriately rated fuse wire in and tightened the screws down.

If the fuse is 32 amps, what size conductor is the cable in the wall?
If multiple 15 amp outlets are on the one circuit, 6mm sq conductor cable is used and rated for 32 to 40 amps, depending on length to the furthest outlet ..... but that is mainly restricted to commercial builds, usually a single 16 amp fuse per 15 amp outlet and a single run of 2.5mm square cable

T1 Terry

 

[Everest]

If the fuse is 32 amps, what size conductor is the cable in the wall?

That will be a design issue and will depend on length of cable run and fixing method reference method (e.g. whether in free air, buried in plaster or under insulation etc.) as defined in Appendix 4 of BS7671. Other factors will need to be considered such as proximity to other parallel load carrying cables.

A typical domestic UK property would often have a ring final of 2.5mm2 twin & earth cable with a 32A MCB or RCBO.

The concept of having a ring, rather than radial circuits was to share the load on effectively parallel cables; allowing houses to be wired using less copper than would be used for radial circuits, post-war, when resources were less available.

https://electrical.theiet.org/media/1617/appendix-4-of-bs-7671.pdf