MG HS Hybrid +

[securespark]

OK.

Each model is the Hybrid + Trophy.

The first figure is PS combined output.
The second is BHP combined output.
The third is kerb weight in kg.
The fourth is 0-62 time in s.


MG3: 194, 191, 1308, 8.0

ZS: 196, 193, 1420, 8.7

HS: 224, 221, 1690, 7.9

 

[securespark]

I have added more figures for comparison, but I'm not sure they "add up".
I will double check them, but I'm pretty sure they all came from MG UK.

 

[MG Clive]

I have added more figures for comparison, but I'm not sure they "add up".
I will double check them, but I'm pretty sure they all came from MG UK.

The HS must have a bigger battery and electric motor than the 3 and the ZS.

 

[BarrieG]

I completed a journey at the weekend from Portsmouth to La Rochelle in France via Newhaven- Dieppe in my HS PHEV..
I emptied the battery between Portsmouth and Newhaven and since I hadn't filled the petrol tank since 6th June the petrol purchased in Newhaven gave me an average consumption of 175mpg.
I wasn't able to top up the battery in Newhaven as planned so I set off from Dieppe on the 400 mile journey on petrol power alone. Although the battery indicated zero miles I was able to drive off the ship and through passport control under electric power.
On the motorway with speeds varying between 70 and 80mph the petrol motor was driving the car and also charging the battery so by the time we stopped in a service area at 9am or Angers for lunch the car had built up sufficient charge to run through both in EV mode.
Refilling the tank at the end of the journey gave an overall petrol consumption of 38mpg, but remember that is at French motorway speeds.
I have previously described a British motorway journey that started with an empty battery that achieved 69mpg due to the considerable 40 and 50 mph running due to accidents.

 

[MG Clive]

Have you seen this one @securespark ?

 

[colinE]

Thanks.

This is why I was asking about how the MG Hybrid + system works and what their mpg is like.

I was looking at a Sportage PHEV but in the Which? review, it said that once the battery was depleted, the consumption plummeted to around 30mpg. Which is no good, if, to keep consumption in a decent range, you have to keep topping the battery up, I think every 40 miles.

How does the HS PHEV perform once the battery has depleted (75 miles?).
What is the mpg?
Does the car refill the battery on the move?
Does mpg improve once you have recharged the battery by plugging in? I guess it does, as you are using EV mode only for up to 75 miles.

I understand that if the car is using fossil to recharge the battery, it will hit the consumption, but once the battery has been recharged, the low consumption level will be achievable once more?

As I say, I am clueless about hybrids....

Hi
The battery does regenerate as you drive on Hybrid mode. As yet I’ve not seen my battery below 30 miles and have driven to Spain from the U.K. approx 1100 miles and only topped up the battery three times, total top up 27 kWh. I have calculated the MPG at 49.8 based on starting with full tank and then topping up before calculating so should be accurate. Plus the cost of the battery re charging which in France and Spain is much cheaper than the public charges in the U.K. typically 35 cents per unit. This is much better than expected.
The car has been a pleasure to drive, mostly on motorways.
At home we use the car for mostly short trips and the battery mileage figure of 75 is pretty accurate for us as it’s generally non motorway driving.
Hope this helps.

 

[securespark]

I can't imagine why in the guide to hybrids on their own site MG say that PHEVs cannot self charge. When I look at replacement cars in the metal, I will be asking Kia about Which?'s claims regarding the huge drop in mpg. The sister car the Tucson is the same, apparently.

Anyway, thank you both for that information, much appreciated.

 

[Captin1234x]

So if PHEVs can self charge, why the need for the P?I

If you took the "P" away then you are relying on expensive petrol to recharge your battery only as you drive it. PHEVs benefit when you are topping the battery with "P" electricity typically at 7-8p per kWh. I am fairly light footed in my HS PHEV and often get 4.5-5.0 miles per kWh. I am on Intelligent Octopus Go which charges for sure at night at the low rate but if I plug in during the day and there is a excess of electricity from Solar/wind then I get the cheap rate as well.
The non "P" hybrid tech is an improvement on petrol as the electric motor runs during those times when you need a lot of torque like stopping starting around town. This saves that costly fuel which tends to kick in during hard acceleration (if you want it ) and motorway driving.
I keep my car in EV mode most of the time and have had it a couple of months and only topped tank once...and that's because I ran it in hybrid mode for about 20 days to see how the car behaved choosing between motor and engine...I learnt I can do better .
BTW, rather than worry about MPG (my display reads 99.9mpg as cannot go higher) I find it useful to think in pence per mile as you can calculate this for the battery and the fuel tank quite easily. In EV I run at about 4p/mile and HEV (Hybrid) 7p per mile. My old diesel ran at 10p/mile. Sure I can squeeze more out. A bit of food for thought anyway.

 

[Lola]

I wondered if anyone could explain to me how MG's hybrid+ system operates, please?

Sure - how long you got? Lol . Joking - You can read all about it on the MG website. Then you can google further from there. I'm still working it out by driving it which is the best way to really learn it l find.

 

[Karateman]

I wondered if anyone had bought or driven one yet?

Thanks.

Just got ours the other day and currently absolutely love it....cant fault it at the moment

 

[securespark]

Fantastic!

 

[PedroXXL]

One thing I have found is that the exhaust is very visible from the side. It's like it is meant to be hidden by the sidesteps, but the Hybrid+ doesn't come with sidesteps, so you just see the exhaust down the length of the car.
The brochure and promo materials are careful not to show it.
I'll add a pic in daylight tomorrow.

 

[securespark]

Thanks.

We took the MG4 in for service the other week. While there, I looked at some of the HS models in the showroom and noticed the PHEV has a step, but the other don't and wondered why, but couldn't find a salesperson to ask about it.

 

[PedroXXL]

Cost cutting I assume, but I must say the Hybrid+ is easier/cleaner to get in and out of without the steps.

 

[securespark]

Ah, I didn't try getting in and out of the PHEV...

 

[PedroXXL]

Exhaust quite visible.

 

[securespark]

So it is, thanks!

 

[MG Clive]

Thanks @PedroXXL, I don't think I've ever seen such a visible exhaust on a standard production car, I'm sure they could have done a better job than that.

 

[securespark]

I think, from memory, that the new HS, despite not being an EV, has an almost flat floor in the back, so that's maybe why the exhaust is so visible?

 

[PedroXXL]

There is a tiny tunnel hump between the seats in the back, but the potential for rusty metal to be a visible surface on the car is surprising.
In the absence of sidesteps there almost needs to be a 2-inch black plastic "skirt" down each side, just for looks.