New food waste collection

[T1 Terry]

My brain hurts

I'm guessing that from before you bought the Berlingo

T1 Terry

 

[Archev]

I'm guessing that from before you bought the Berlingo

T1 Terry

Finest vehicle ever

 

[securespark]

Only ever driven the Diesel MK1.

I liked the shelf over the windscreen. Good place for all my millions of regs books!

 

[Archev]

Only ever driven the Diesel MK1.

I liked the shelf over the windscreen. Good place for all my millions of regs books!

Still trying to find a good one for daughter - Citroen/ Peugeot/ Toyota/ Fiat/ Vauxhall. They’re as common as hens teeth for a good one.

 

[securespark]

What, a Diesel one or an electron version?

 

[Archev]

What, a Diesel one or an electron version?

Oh I can’t convince her about the propev version sadly.

The diesels, especially the semi automatic ones are really excellent and very economical- - I had two of them and they returned 60 to 65 mpg regularly.
Shame there’s not hybrid version.

 

[T1 Terry]

Still trying to find a good one for daughter - Citroen/ Peugeot/ Toyota/ Fiat/ Vauxhall. They’re as common as hens teeth for a good one.

Beside the Toyota, you have narrowed your possibilities down to almost zero

T1 Terry

The diesels, especially the semi automatic ones are really excellent and very economical- - I had two of them and they returned 60 to 65 mpg regularly.
Shame there’s not hybrid version.

Trying to picture the small electric motor spinning the diesel over till it fired up, it would need to incorporate decompression and fuel control to limit injection to after TDC to ensure it didn't try to spin backwards .... otherwise, the battery capacity and motor torque would mean the diesel ICE was simply unneeded addition weight and complexity ......
The diesel would need to run full time, the fuel trimmed as the EV part added its bit to improve economy, yet still power itself enough to not be a load on the EV motor ..... now that is a complex hybrid, but it would be great technology, then supplement the diesel with LNG and it would make an incredible leap forward for heavy vehicle use .....

T1 Terry

 

[Archev]

Beside the Toyota, you have narrowed your possibilities down to almost zero

T1 Terry

Only difference is the badge really. They were all made on the same lines I believe. The Toyota versions were only available as vans not combos and not nearly so prevalent.

Trying to picture the small electric motor spinning the diesel over till it fired up, it would need to incorporate decompression and fuel control to limit injection to after TDC to ensure it didn't try to spin backwards .... otherwise, the battery capacity and motor torque would mean the diesel ICE was simply unneeded addition weight and complexity ......
The diesel would need to run full time, the fuel trimmed as the EV part added its bit to improve economy, yet still power itself enough to not be a load on the EV motor ..... now that is a complex hybrid, but it would be great technology, then supplement the diesel with LNG and it would make an incredible leap forward for heavy vehicle use .....

T1 Terry

Yeah I was really envisioning a petrol / ev hybrid when I said that which might have suited my daughter. But personally I find the pure ev is just perfect. I wouldn’t want to be lugging any ice set up around with me

 

[T1 Terry]

Ah, badge engineering, like the Subaru EV

T1 Terry

 

[securespark]

While we're on the subject of hybrids, what do folk think about the Qashqai e-power?

1.5T petrol lump charging a battery full time but it never drives the wheels.

An "EV" that never needs plugging in...

 

[Archev]

While we're on the subject of hybrids, what do folk think about the Qashqai e-power?

1.5T petrol lump charging a battery full time but it never drives the wheels.

An "EV" that never needs plugging in...

In a word - yuk !
What’s the point ? Having to still visit filling stations en route and working out the remaining available quantities of TWO fuels to facilitate progress to your destination.

 

[T1 Terry]

While we're on the subject of hybrids, what do folk think about the Qashqai e-power?

1.5T petrol lump charging a battery full time but it never drives the wheels.

An "EV" that never needs plugging in...

Why? To use another members lines ..... Carting around a petrol powered genset is the technology Toyota used with the Prius, a great idea back in 2004, but 22 yrs later, seriously dated .... and adding a turbo to increase the fuel usage??? At the risk of repeating myself ..... why I could understand a 1 ltr diesel using the Pruis 2 motor planetary set, in some stages of the smoke and mirrors, that actually does drive the wheels .... sort of ....

100km/ltr (around 60 miles) or better, the ability to shut the diesel ICE off and just drive around on batteries and throw in plug in charging for when it's used as a city car ...... but it there really enough long trips over there to make it a viable proposition?
Over here, where you can drive 200kms or more between towns, sure .... maybe ..,

T1 Terry

 

[MG Clive]

While we're on the subject of hybrids, what do folk think about the Qashqai e-power?

1.5T petrol lump charging a battery full time but it never drives the wheels.

An "EV" that never needs plugging in...

I wouldn't usually admit this, but the new Qashqai actually looks quite nice, but why oh why didn't they just make it full EV, or at least add an EV option to the range.

 

[Archev]

Why? To use another members lines ..... Carting around a petrol powered genset is the technology Toyota used with the Prius, a great idea back in 2004, but 22 yrs later, seriously dated .... and adding a turbo to increase the fuel usage??? At the risk of repeating myself ..... why I could understand a 1 ltr diesel using the Pruis 2 motor planetary set, in some stages of the smoke and mirrors, that actually does drive the wheels .... sort of ....

100km/ltr (around 60 miles) or better, the ability to shut the diesel ICE off and just drive around on batteries and throw in plug in charging for when it's used as a city car ...... but it there really enough long trips over there to make it a viable proposition?
Over here, where you can drive 200kms or more between towns, sure .... maybe ..,

T1 Terry

I just refer back to my fantastic day trip in my MG5 - 425 miles / eleven hours / three “outside” top ups and a ferry journey to go to the Isle of Skye and back.

 

[T1 Terry]

I just refer back to my fantastic day trip in my MG5 - 425 miles / eleven hours / three “outside” top ups and a ferry journey to go to the Isle of Skye and back.

With an introduction to MG like that, I understand why you chose a different manufacturer .... even the poverty pack MG4 51 would do that in 2 stops, but more comfy 3 stops .... 680kms, 230kms per charge, would allow for 110km/h (70mph), maybe 9 hrs max ..... the 10 tonne motorhome would do that with a splash and dash in maybe 8 hrs .... so 11 hrs .... what went wrong?

T1 Terry











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[Archev]

With an introduction to MG like that, I understand why you chose a different manufacturer .... even the poverty pack MG4 51 would do that in 2 stops, but more comfy 3 stops .... 680kms, 230kms per charge, would allow for 110km/h (70mph), maybe 9 hrs max ..... the 10 tonne motorhome would do that with a splash and dash in maybe 8 hrs .... so 11 hrs .... what went wrong?

T1 Terry











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Absolutely nothing. The day included lunch at the first charge stop. Waiting for and enjoying the ferry crossing. A walk and coffee stop during the second charge. A visit to Eilan Donnan castle for over two hours and a walk and dinner while the car topped up to return home. And many stops in between while my New Zealander Niece took stacks of photos.

 

[T1 Terry]

Absolutely nothing. The day included lunch at the first charge stop. Waiting for and enjoying the ferry crossing. A walk and coffee stop during the second charge. A visit to Eilan Donnan castle for over two hours and a walk and dinner while the car topped up to return home. And many stops in between while my New Zealander Niece took stacks of photos.

Ah, I see, so it wasn't a plug for maybe going hybrid, I missed that post, just a great lazy trip, they can take 11 hrs without even trying :lol:
Managed to spend 14 hrs and moved 2.5kms from the last overnight stop, some places are just so full of things to see and do .....

T1 Terry

 

[securespark]

I wouldn't usually admit this, but the new Qashqai actually looks quite nice, but why oh why didn't they just make it full EV, or at least add an EV option to the range.

I remember reading in Auto Express about the possibility of a full EV Qashqai coming due in 2026, but I think it must have been set back.

Just looked at the latest on Auto Express. Apparently, the Qashqai EV will appear in the second half of the decade, possibly as early as 2027 and the Qashqai e-power will continue to be sold alongside it.

It will "take inspiration" from Nissan's Hyper Urban concept.

 

[securespark]

When choosing our next car, we had two lists, we had a petrol list and an EV list.

On both lists, there were SUVs and hatches.

The sales people were a bit pissed off, because they complained you couldn't compare one with another.

Mrs S was like, "We can, don't worry!"

On the petrol paper list was the Qashqai, which made it to the test-drive short list. Decent car, easy to get in and out of, big boot, loads of legroom for me, decent view of the frog, everything I want now!

We would probably have had it, but for the fact we went to see the MG4 first and fell in love with the fact it was electric.

Now, if only Nissan had kept to their schedule, our next motor would very probably be the Qashqai EV!