The Tesla full self-driving thread

[dsimpkins]

If it works, the destination is clear: it will become illegal to drive manually except on special private roads as a retro leisure activity.

No self driving in my Wife's 1971 VW Beetle. I hope this doesn't spell the end for classic cars too!

 

[tsedge]

No self driving in my Wife's 1971 VW Beetle. I hope this doesn't spell the end for classic cars too!

I'm sure classics will initially get an exemption but the insurance costs could price you off the road as a non self driving vehicle will be perceived as a very high risk.

 

[DixieTGS]

Don't worry, I'm sure Ali express will be selling after market kits as soon as it becomes mainstream.

 

[dsimpkins]

Don't worry, I'm sure Ali express will be selling after market kits as soon as it becomes mainstream.

I doubt insurers would sign off on DIY kits, suspect it would require installation by certified professional.

I'm sure classics will initially get an exemption but the insurance costs could price you off the road as a non self driving vehicle will be perceived as a very high risk

Unfortunately you are probably right, but hoping any exemption will be a long one if that comes to pass.

 

[Rolfe]

This is all in the realms of the "entirely possible, quite likely" but it's also many decades away if it happens. Even if true self-driving is cracked, the journey from there to banning human drivers is going to be long, winding and fraught with difficulties.

 

[Gadget Geek]

Self driving vehicles had been around before ICE vehicles made them redundant.

My father used to tell me about my grandfather, who used to work in a foundry making the boilers for steam engines. After a hard days work in all that heat, they used to go to the pub to down a few pints. One old chap used to get legless and they would take him out of the pub, put him on the back of his cart, slap the horses rump, and he would take him home.

 

[DixieTGS]

Self driving vehicles had been around before ICE vehicles made them redundant.

My father used to tell me about my grandfather, who used to work in a foundry making the boilers for steam engines. After a hard days work in all that heat, they used to go to the pub to down a few pints. One old chap used to get legless and they would take him out of the pub, put him on the back of his cart, slap the horses rump, and he would take him home.

On my dad's milk round as a lad, while he took the milk to the doorstop the horse would move on to the next one on its own. And nobody complained about emissions either - a penny a bucket he got for those.

 

[dsimpkins]

I'm starting to get the feeling that I may be the youngest one in this conversation?

 

[Ian Key]

That's why I'm not joining in. I don't want to lower the average age

 

[DixieTGS]

It may be later than you'd imagined - around the late 30's in the London suburbs. I suspect one or two forum members were alive by then.

It was around the time they introduced driving tests, stopped putting the pedals in random orders and had 30 times the number of road deaths per car as now.

 

[DaevM]

...and had 30 times the number of road deaths per car as now.

Don't know what they're complaining about, these days

 

[DixieTGS]

And to drag it back on topic, if that was the safety bar Elon was trying to reach, we'd all be getting an extra half hours sleep on the way to work by now.

 

[mg4nick]

Be careful what you write here... I suspect the AI is watching, learning and it might be capable of holding a grudge...

 

[dsimpkins]

Too late for that, have you seen the latest Boston Dynamics Atlas robot? It is electrically actuated, not hydraulically. It's joints have greater freedom of movement than the human body. It moves like the T1000 Terminator.

 

[DaevM]

Too late for that, have you seen the latest Boston Dynamics Atlas robot? It is electrically actuated, not hydraulically. It's joints have greater freedom of movement than the human body. It moves like the T1000 Terminator.

Eek!!

 

[dsimpkins]

Started a new thread with a link to the YouTube video in the general forum.

 

[Archev]

Nonsense - that was the film they made of me in my tin suit. I wish

 

[fnegroni]

Having encountered the Boston dynamics dog in the flesh while I was casually walking the corridors of my company’s headquarters, I can testify it’s scary as f***!

 

[gnutrino]

I'm hearing great things about this new version of Tesla's self-driving software. I honestly thought it could be decades before this was feasible, but they seem to be pretty damn close with the version 12 the Tesla boys in Merika are raving about.

Well yes, this happens every time there's an FSD update. They've been "pretty damn close" for years. I'd always recommend waiting until people who aren't hardcore Tesla fanboys and are able to see the flaws get hold of it before getting excited.

 

[Rolfe]

Well, maybe, but pretty much all of them are saying that this one feels like a very significant advance.