MG was second for the sale of EVs in UK

Interesting viewing on how many MG4s were sold.

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Interesting read, The BMW i4 looks beautiful, a few £ out of my budget

siteguru said:

Link won't load for me - I just get a blank page (i.e. page just stalling). Tried with both Chrome and Edge browsers.

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It works ok for me in Chrome.

Nope - still not working for me. Must be something with how my PC is setup ... I even tried turning off uBlock.

You are not using MG's computer are you?

Works for me. I see all the MG4s are lumped together as one car, but the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are treated as two different cars - taking 1st and 4th place.

To be fair - the equivalent comparison would be lumping MG4, MG5 and ZS EV together; Model 3 and Model Y are different cars, not simply different trims. After all, I assume (because I can't see it) that they haven't split out Model 3 Standard vs Model 3 Dual Motor Performance (for example)? So lumping those specs together is the same as lumping the MG4 specs together.

Sure, but in the article they said that the Model Y was just a bigger, taller version of the Model 3.

Ermski said:

Interesting read, The BMW i4 looks beautiful, a few £ out of my budget

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Nothing is beautiful when it has a huge false moustache stuck on the front. BMW have a propeller badge, time to ditch the kidney grill.

Rolfe said:

Sure, but in the article they said that the Model Y was just a bigger, taller version of the Model 3.

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It isn't a variant, it is an entirely separate car with its own platform. It does have similar looks, though I take issue with the article claiming it is "suave" and it is more "eggy" than "edgy"!

Rolfe said:

Sure, but in the article they said that the Model Y was just a bigger, taller version of the Model 3.

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They might have said that - this doesn't make it true. For a start the M3 is a saloon whereas the MY is a hatchback and more like an SUV.

tsedge said:

Nothing is beautiful when it has a huge false moustache stuck on the front. BMW have a propeller badge, time to ditch the kidney grill.

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Yeah, that’s a monstrosity. Baboon springs to mind.

Anyway, that’s good news for the MG4. It looks like many people are enjoying electric motoring.

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They might have said that - this doesn't make it true. For a start the M3 is a saloon whereas the MY is a hatchback and more like an SUV.

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Well, I didn't know that! (I didn't even know they made a hatchback.) I was only going by what the article said, and thought it was inconsistent.

Interesting quote from the article, 'By the end of last year more than 62,000 MG4s had been sold since 2022 launch, making it one of the top selling MG models in Europe and the Netherlands'. Looks like the Netherlands has dropped out of Europe (Nexit?)

Interesting thread. By coincidence I took Mrs S to the Arnold Clark Innovations centre in Glasgow today. The best way to describe it is a multi franchise car dealers without sales exec's. The have just about every EV currently available on site for you to look at, ask questions and take for a test drive. No pressure but if you are interested they will direct you to your local AC branch and it's all free. For Mrs S it was great to actually see an EV motor and an EV Battery out of the car which has helped her visualise what happens 'below the floor'. They also have a VW XL1 in the showroom (for those of a certain age it looks like a half scale Citroen SM) which I'd love it it wasn't a diesel hybrid. If you have any friends who are unsure about EV's then send them along. They have one in Stafford too.

Our reason for the visit was that as well as our MG4 we have a BMW 320i which is coming up to 3 years old. Mrs S hates the MG4 and refuses to drive it because of all the button pressing to disable the LKA etc and the unpredictability of what the software will do next. So while there we looked at the Polestar 2 (too boxy) Kia EV6 (interior reminded her of the MG4) Tesla M3 and BMW i4e40. These last two we test drove.

The best way to describe the i4 is as a normal BMW 3 or 4 series but with an electric motor. Every control is in the same place as the petrol car. Everything works like a petrol car. It's the first EV either of us has been in that hasn't tried to reinvent the car. Normality resumed for Mrs S.

The Tesla we drove was the model 3 dual motor version. Both of us were surprised at just how good it is. The ride seemed good. The handling is good. The interior is light and airy and the seats are comfortable. The only downsides were the amount of road noise and the various rattles. This was an older car (can't remember if it was a 20 0r 22 reg) and the latest version is supposed to be quieter. Also I didn't like not having a display directly in front with the basics of speed etc. Having to take my eyes off the road to look at the screen to the left didn't seem sensible.

So the upshot is that I am now tasked with selling the 320i and sourcing a used low milage i4. The MG4 will stay until the finance deal finishes in 2025 then it will be returned. One car will then be sufficient as we are both retired.

Just as an add-on, I saw an i4 available down between Birmingham and Bristol. Checking the route on ABRP suggests I could get it back to Ayr with one stop of 16 mins and one of 19. It takes me longer than that for a coffee and pee break at the services without refuelling!

But the BMW i4 seems to have LKA Lane assist system is very aggressive for me. ? I wouldn't have thought this was 'driving like an ordinary petrol car' but then I'm driving the MG4 after coming from a 12 year old Jazz

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But the BMW i4 seems to have LKA Lane assist system is very aggressive for me. ? I wouldn't have thought this was 'driving like an ordinary petrol car' but then I'm driving the MG4 after coming from a 12 year old Jazz

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It does, as does every car now but it is just 2 button presses not 4.

The i4 looks a good car. Better than the Tesla model 3 if you want a hatch-back. Bit too long for our garage unfortunately.

siteguru said:

Link won't load for me - I just get a blank page (i.e. page just stalling). Tried with both Chrome and Edge browsers.

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Works in Firefox. Or more specifically it works in Firefox on my Chromebook.

Try this link that doesn't go through MSN.