Are we watching an empire collapse in real time?

[Ian Key]

Aussies generally prefer vegemite!

It depends what you've been brought up on. I have tried Vegemite but much prefer Marmite and a peanut butter and Marmite sandwich is excellent.

 

[decrep]

We gave some visiting German/Americans, a treat of our local spread, very amusing reaction.

I think the Yank part wanted to say "that's nice, but the German side wanted to be far less polite.

 

[Gomev]

It depends what you've been brought up on. I have tried Vegemite but much prefer Marmite and a peanut butter and Marmite sandwich is excellent.

Lovely stuff

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Well, you either love me or hate me.

Are you asking me , or your betrothed ?

 

[T1 Terry]

It depends what you've been brought up on. I have tried Vegemite but much prefer Marmite and a peanut butter and Marmite sandwich is excellent.

Peanut butter and Marmite ...... you are sick puppy

Should have read further, they actually put it in jars .... is it marked as suitable for human consumption?

T1 Terry

 

[MG Clive]

Lovely stuff

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Yuk, definitely not for me.

 

[Gadget Geek]

Ordinary crunchy peanut butter with Tesco Yeast Extract stirred in to it . . . Lovely. Gives it a bit of tang.

 

[Ian Key]

Peanut butter and Marmite ...... you are sick puppy

Should have read further, they actually put it in jars .... is it marked as suitable for human consumption?

T1 Terry

From a country that eats Vegemite?

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

 

[T1 Terry]

Peanut butter and honey ....
Vegemite and Cheese ....

Marmite and anything ..... yeah nah

T1 Terry

 

[T1 Terry]

How did we get from the US economy and dominance collapsing, to Marmite and Peanut Butter .....

T1 Terry

 

[Ian Key]

How did we get from the US economy and dominance collapsing, to Marmite and Peanut Butter .....

T1 Terry

Because the civilised world would collapse without them.

 

[T1 Terry]

Because the civilised world would collapse without them.

What, Marmite and Peanut Butter? Is it really that good

T1 Terry

 

[m4rmite]

Are you asking me , or your betrothed ?

Depends on how drunk I am

 

[Bam Bam]

Sobering reading...

The Old World Order is Dead

The US created a system that benefitted them. Trump is such a moron he thinks it is unfair and wants to blow it up.

The last time the US turned entirely inward there was economic depression (especially in the US), fascism and then a world war.

If the US becomes really belligerent (like Germany did) then the world will have to unite against it and sheer numbers would mean that the US wouldn't stand a chance.

 

[tsedge]

Sobering reading...

The Old World Order is Dead

The US created a system that benefitted them. Trump is such a moron he thinks it is unfair and wants to blow it up.

The last time the US turned entirely inward there was economic depression (especially in the US), fascism and then a world war.

If the US becomes really belligerent (like Germany did) then the world will have to unite against it and sheer numbers would mean that the US wouldn't stand a chance.

The irony is that it's probably just one of his "brilliant" negotiating tactics, he probably thinks this is a good way to get a good deal and the harder he pushes the more he will get.

Americans seem to think this is Trump being Trump, we should all just chill out...but Europeans aren't receiving it like that. It is very close to the end of NATO, a trade war, closure of US bases in Europe, a new European security organisation and the US unable to interfere in large parts of Europe and the Middle East.

After all, if we're playing the Game of Hemispheres, we have one too...

None of that is a welcome prospect.

 

[OriginalBigAl]

Split Greenland into thirds with USA , China and Russia each having a portion nearest to their homelands and sharing land borders. They can then duke it out without bothering the rest of us, and when they are finished a small Danish force can go in and claim it back.
More seriously, China's interests are in the Pacific/ Indian ocean area , not sure what it thinks of Western Europe. The present regimes in Russia and the US hate Europe even if a majority of their populations don't . It would suit both their ideals to cause a war in Europe either by splitting the EU with Russia moving West into individual countries and the US having defaulted itself out of NATO but still wanting to be a quartermaster , at a price , to those happy or desperate enough to pay its price.
All of this could be avoided by two well placed bullets by a true patriot of each of the respected countries who can see the writing on the wall and is prepared for the consequences of their actions but with the appreciation and respect of millions of people. I keep a bottle of good wine on hold to toast their sacrifice and memory.

 

[JohnV6]

Read 1984. The end game is very clear

 

[T1 Terry]

Split Greenland into thirds with USA , China and Russia each having a portion nearest to their homelands and sharing land borders. They can then duke it out without bothering the rest of us, and when they are finished a small Danish force can go in and claim it back.
More seriously, China's interests are in the Pacific/ Indian ocean area , not sure what it thinks of Western Europe. The present regimes in Russia and the US hate Europe even if a majority of their populations don't . It would suit both their ideals to cause a war in Europe either by splitting the EU with Russia moving West into individual countries and the US having defaulted itself out of NATO but still wanting to be a quartermaster , at a price , to those happy or desperate enough to pay its price.
All of this could be avoided by two well placed bullets by a true patriot of each of the respected countries who can see the writing on the wall and is prepared for the consequences of their actions but with the appreciation and respect of millions of people. I keep a bottle of good wine on hold to toast their sacrifice and memory.

I don't think a bullet will help now, maybe if he gets too much further it might be the only solution .... but what is left of the govt to actually fill the gap? None of them are qualified to do the jobs they are holding, Trump at the top of the pile, it needs a complete cleanout and what is available to clean up the mess and get the place back in some sort of order?
Can you imagine the US devolving into a European type affair, each state for their own, those states breaking up into even smaller factions ......

The only fix I see sorting any of it, an end to the capitalistic democracy, all the under the table deals Trump and family have made to be dragged out into the open and everyone dragged kicking and screaming through the courts .... the guillotine might be a tad barbaric for these times, but doing it to their wealth and empire and returning it to the state/country, would be fair warning to anyone there, business as usual is not an option .....
Putting all that money back in the system would go a long way to clearing both their national debt and the insanity that caused it in the first place .....

T1 Terry