Full charge range

[the bunker]

My understanding is going up a hill uses far more battery than the amount of Regen when going back down the same hill.
On that basis I’m wondering on a long journey if it’s best to use low Regen and let the car cruise when coming off the accelerator. On high Regen you typically have to use more throttle to maintain speed. Any thoughts on what’s most economical?

I watched a well know EV chap on youtube who says regen only gets you about 15% back of the energy, so low regen is more economical.

 

[sammoj]

This was last week. Mainly motorway from Newcastle upon Tyne to Eastbourne and back. Average efficiency 4 mi/kWh so with a 62 kWh usable battery I would suggest 248 miles to empty from full. Comfortable range 220 probably and if charging to 80% around 190-200.

Charging was rapid and I saw 138kW peak with a pretty solid 100kW most of the cycle, even close to 90% it was still pulling 30-40kW which is much better than my old Kona which peaked at 70kW and averaged 40-45kW.

 

[sammoj]

Charging curve for 2nd charge of the day in case anyone is interested.

 

[Jazzyboy]

I have had my S5 for a month and understood the full charge range to be 288 miles on the Trophy extended range variant, I am getting varying full charge ranges, today 280 miles, previous charge 294 miles other charges as low as 274, is anyone else getting similar?

I am stilllllll waiting for my dealership to advise when I can collect my S5..... tuh. However I thought best practise to only charge to 80% and only go 100% if you are planning a long journey

 

[LenEV2016]

I am stilllllll waiting for my dealership to advise when I can collect my S5..... tuh. However I thought best practise to only charge to 80% and only go 100% if you are planning a long journey

It is,or once a month for a balance charge

 

[sammoj]

I am stilllllll waiting for my dealership to advise when I can collect my S5..... tuh. However I thought best practise to only charge to 80% and only go 100% if you are planning a long journey

It is, I generally charge between 20% and 80% most of the time. Obviously when you need a long journey it’s designed to be charged to 100% and on the app calls this ‘long journey mode’ when over 80% charged.

 

[Lovemyev]

It is, I generally charge between 20% and 80% most of the time. Obviously when you need a long journey it’s designed to be charged to 100% and on the app calls this ‘long journey mode’ when over 80% charged.

Same here.
The same advice was recommended on the ZS EV LR.
No surprise really, as this model also has the NMC battery chemistry.
Most of our daily needs are covered by charging to 80% SOC from our home wall box.
We have 5 hours of the cheaper Off Peak” rate electricity from EDF at about 8p/kWh.
Each hour on charge, will roughly add 25 miles of extra range into the pack ( 125 miles total for 5 hours ).
I tend to allow the remaining range on the GOM to drop to about 75 miles left ( ish ).
The I will put the car on charge.
This will endure the car to hits the predicted 220ish miles of predicted range, while taking advantage of the 5 hours of the cheaper rate .

 

[Mark B]

I use Intelligent Octopus Go and charge up to 80% normally. With the Octopus model I can plug in and leave it, and if there is available excess energy in the grid, I get topped up at 7p/kWh at any time. Between 23:30 and 05:30 all the electricity is at 7p/kWh so gets the car charged and the dishwasher etc at the cheaper rate. You can tell the Octopus app the level you want to charge up to so both it and the car app are set to 80%. I just change them both to 100% if I know I'm on call or have a long run planned.

 

[nem]

I am stilllllll waiting for my dealership to advise when I can collect my S5..... tuh. However I thought best practise to only charge to 80% and only go 100% if you are planning a long journey

Yeah it was. This is from when EVs were newer. Nowadays it doesnt matter as much.
Technically you might wear the battery faster charging it to 100%, but in the full perspective this doesnt matter at all. The car will likely not be in your possession when this wear starts to become noticeable. Even older teslas are holding up fine, having 95%+ battery capacity at over 10 years old only using supercharging (which supposedly is bad for the batteries as well).

Newer EVs have a healthy top and bottom buffer on their batterypacks while older EVs didnt have this, so when you charge your MGS5 to 100% in reality its maybe at 90% (depends on their buffers of course, but considering their battery warranty the buffer is healthy).

The only thing you absolutely should not do is leave the car for longer periods of time while the battery is either full (100%) or close to empty. The rest? Do whatever you feel like.

 

[Jazzyboy]

Yeah it was. This is from when EVs were newer. Nowadays it doesnt matter as much.
Technically you might wear the battery faster charging it to 100%, but in the full perspective this doesnt matter at all. The car will likely not be in your possession when this wear starts to become noticeable. Even older teslas are holding up fine, having 95%+ battery capacity at over 10 years old only using supercharging (which supposedly is bad for the batteries as well).

Newer EVs have a healthy top and bottom buffer on their batterypacks while older EVs didnt have this, so when you charge your MGS5 to 100% in reality its maybe at 90% (depends on their buffers of course, but considering their battery warranty the buffer is healthy).

The only thing you absolutely should not do is leave the car for longer periods of time while the battery is either full (100%) or close to empty. The rest? Do whatever you feel like.

Great common sense response to a very difficult question