MG S5 Trophy Long Range - 3 phase charging ?

[RhythMick]

Page 42 of the owners manual (for Type 3 battery packs, 64kWh) indicates that 3-phase charging is supported at 11kW? Am I misreading ?

My Zappi supports 3-phase (I'm lucky to have 3-phase to the house). Do I need to do anything more than switch the Zappi to 3-phase ?

I just have the Type 2 cable which came with the car - do I need a special cable to support 3-phase ?

 

[Everest]

The type 2 cable will need to be a 3 phase cable (i.e. with pins L2 and L3 connected).

Do we assume that it's not charging at 11kW as you're posting the question here?

 

[RhythMick]

No you shouldn't assume that. I'm trying it now. Of course if my cable isn't 3 phase it won't work.

Asking the question because I thought I'd been told UK MG didn't support 3 phase.

I'll report back tomorrow.

 

[Everest]

First gen MG4 NMC's had 3 phase chargers, as do ER's. Not sure about ZS though (assuming your profile is up-to-date)?

 

[Warden]

No you shouldn't assume that. I'm trying it now. Of course if my cable isn't 3 phase it won't work.

Asking the question because I thought I'd been told UK MG didn't support 3 phase.

I'll report back tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure the face-lift MG5 supported 3 phase. I never tried it with mine, as never had the chance. 3 phase cables are not cheap, but if you've got it at home it will certainly speed things up. Can you get the cheap night time rate with 3 phase?

 

[RhythMick]

First gen MG4 NMC's had 3 phase chargers, as do ER's. Not sure about ZS though (assuming your profile is up-to-date)?

Sorry not updated my profile - I'm in the MG S5 now

No you shouldn't assume that. I'm trying it now. Of course if my cable isn't 3 phase it won't work.

Asking the question because I thought I'd been told UK MG didn't support 3 phase.

I'll report back tomorrow.

Checked both the Type 2 cables I have, neither have L2/L3.

Recommendations for 3-phase cables please ?

 

[Everest]

3 phase cables are not cheap

One would like to think that the supplied cable would match the car's capability?

Recommendations for 3-phase cables please ?

EV Cables have a good reputation.

 

[Warden]

One would like to think that the supplied cable would match the car's capability?

a bit pointless for MG to supply a 3 phase cable as 3 phase charges are as rare as hens teeth.

 

[RhythMick]

Amazon.co.uk

£80 delivered tomorrow, 5m 3-phase 32A

 

[Everest]

a bit pointless for MG to supply a 3 phase cable as 3 phase charges are as rare as hens teeth.

Really? I thought most public AC chargers (supermarkets etc.) were 3 phase, rather than single phase.

 

[Warden]

Really? I thought most public AC chargers (supermarkets etc.) were 3 phase, rather than single phase.

Not that I'm aware of

 

[xblackwolf90]

Really? I thought most public AC chargers (supermarkets etc.) were 3 phase, rather than single phase.

It's worth checking Zapmap - the areas where I stop to charge when away with work are around a 50/50 split between single and 3phase.

I purchased a 3 phase cable for my MG5 (not the S5), since my car only came with a single phase cable. and it makes a notable difference.

Two hours on a 3phase charger adds around 20kWh (or 80 miles). On single phase, that's around 13 kWh (or 52 miles). Nothing groundbreaking but a few extra miles for the same time charging is always welcome.

Worth noting regarding single / 3 phase charging and cables:

• If the public charger is 11kw 3 phase, you'll only get around 3kw charging speeds from a single phase car/cable (you'll still get your 7kw rate from both a 7 or 22kw charging point).
• If you buy a 3 Phase cable, always get a 22kw one even though your car won't support the full 22kW. Using an 11kW cable on a 7kW charger will only deliver around 3kW.

11kW chargers do seem to be rather rare though - 7 and 22 are much more common.

 

[GaryMG4]

Page 42 of the owners manual (for Type 3 battery packs, 64kWh) indicates that 3-phase charging is supported at 11kW? Am I misreading ?

My Zappi supports 3-phase (I'm lucky to have 3-phase to the house). Do I need to do anything more than switch the Zappi to 3-phase ?

I just have the Type 2 cable which came with the car - do I need a special cable to support 3-phase ?

My (tethered) Zappi installed by Octopus is three phase capable although we don't have it here. Regarding public AC chargers a lot of the council ones installed in public car parks in my area are 3 phase, similarly on my recent visit to Scotland most of the ones I tried were 3-phase.