I asked my dealership if my vehicle had received PD052 and the answer was yes. I then asked what it was supposed to do and they replied it changes the point at which the battery starts to recharge. Originally the battery could get down to 10% charge now it starts to recharge at 30% as a minimum. It does not I was told have anything to do with the issue of high revs on hills.
I think this explains why people who live in hilly areas are experiencing more issues.
Effectively it seems like I now have a lower capacity battery to run in EV mode as now the petrol engine is used a lot more. It kicks in much earlier and doesn't allow me to use the 'free' EV charge that's been collected from the regeneration. Also due to the number of hills being steeper and longer I get messages saying that regeneration braking is not being utilised which I assume means it;s charged the battery enough so again energy is wasted? Hence my mpg has gone down.
The high revs may be due then to the system recognising that the hills are steep due to the increased pressure on the accelerator which you don't need to do on shallower hills.
I still get revs often over 4500 and on long hills still lose the ability to accelerate when needed.
My dealer has said the same as all others that MG say it's a characteristic of the car but my car performed better before the PD052 update and I think the above may explain why so MG have altered the performance of the car I purchased to its detriment.
The PD052 update may have improved the performance for the majority of people without too many hills but certainly not for me and I believe many others so be good to see a few comments
 
update on my previous post
Took a drive yesterday to Little Haven and on the return the car behaved very strangely.
Climbed a very long steepish hill so car was revving over 4500 revs for several minutes. tried taking foot off accelerator but car slowed quickly and so had to keep pressing and revs continued. Of course what goes up must come down so started coasting down with regn at either 1 or 2 to keep me at a nice safe speed. Warning sign came on saying regeneration braking limited and revs shot up to 4500 without my foot on the accelerator. this was alarming but then car speeded up I imagine due to there now being no engine braking so I had to brake. Car continued revving high for a few minutes all the way down. If that had happened at one of the many 90 degree bends on this road I believe I could have crashed. This would be similar to being in a low gear in a manual car to stop the car running away but then putting the car into neutral and so car speeds up. MPG was also seen going down instead of increasing as I should be freewheeling down the hill. I think this sums up what i was saying in my previous post but worse as why should the engine be revving and using petrol when in fact the battery is full and the engine wasn't needed. Has to be something to do with actually trying to stop the battery overcharging but again never did this before the PD052 update
 
Hi all.
Has anyone experienced throttle lag while going up a hill. While I was going up a hill doing 50mph engine started to over rev 4000 rpm . I put my foot down on accelerator to overtake slow moving lorry and there was no response for a couple of seconds. This has happened several times now. I took my car to local MG dealership which I brought it from. I was told it was a characteristic of the car. I asked if had the latest software PD052 update but was told PD052 is not suitable for my MGZS+ hybrid . Anyway car is booked in June 16th to see if they can find anything on the dyno. 🤞
 
Hi all - am reading your comments with great interest as I too have the high revving and zero power in our new ZS Hybrid plus pitched in Australia earlier this year. I am currently checking with my MG dealership to see what can/will be done as it is definitely not normal, acceptable or safe. I am away from our home for a few weeks and checked with the local dealership who updated some software (not PD052) but this problem has not been fixed. When I pointed this out, they suggested I go back and discuss this with my dealer.
 
If going up a hill, do not use Cruise control. And before applying Cruise control bring the car up to the required speed then initiate Cruise control and you will find it not so harsh. If/when the over rev is heard take your foot of the accelerator slightly for a sec.
 
Driving the MG ZS Hybrid+ for about a month now....
After the first 100 miles we ran into overrev on a moderate climb just outside Vienna, engine climbed up to 4500 rpm and NO accelaration at 40 mph was possible....
Nxt time this happens I will try driving mode "Sport" and turn off AC
So far no other issues with the car, it´s our first Hybrid and compared to the other new cars my friends and neighbors got....this one beats them all!
Will report here if change of driving mode helps!
 
In my experience I agree with the suggestions of Hybrid Ann, especially with the usefulness of slightly release the accelerator
 
So, I picked up my new ZS Hybrid+ Trophy today. Forgot to ask about the update, will do tomorrow. For context, we also have a 2024 ZS EV long range Trophy, acting as our local car (which we love), and the H+ is for when we do the occasional longer journey from Scotland to England etc. Driving the H+ home today, I had the revving thing, usually up to 3k, but rarely more. The journey was in the west of Scotland (including the Rest and be Thankful pass, if you know it), so quite a few 'test' hills. The revving was certainly new to me (previously had the Vitara mild hybrid), but as I understand it to mean that it is topping up the battery, it was not too alarming; I didn't experience the lack of acceleration, which would be alarming for sure. My take on it is that not having a display of the range/scale of possible rev frequencies, and showing the red line, doesn't help; seeing (and hearing in an under-insulated car) the revving may have felt less unsettling if I could see that 3k, and even 4/5k, is still within the range of 'acceptable' / non-damaging revs. I was told that the H+'s peak power is at 6k (with the red line being slightly above that) and the max torque is at 4.5k. An earlier post talked of the engine charging the battery at 'efficiently high revs'. It's the high revving in the context of going slow (and uphill, usually) that is unsettling. I did feel that some of the revving was the car hunting the right gear, as it went from EV to HEV, but absolutely the main thing is the charging aspect. Perhaps I have been too used to thinking low revs is good, high revs is bad; that's true no doubt for mpg or long-term wear and tear, but it's not always bad bad. Perhaps the software is written by engineers who value high-torque/rev charging efficiency over the toe-curling, sweat-inducing impact on the driver! I empathise with previous posters who wonder why the algorithm couldn't just let the petrol engine do the hard work of getting up the blooming hill (or keeping a higher proportion of the work, to maintain a decent speed), and forget about the charging thing; but perhaps, not knowing how long the hill (or car park ramp) is, the system is paranoid about leaving the driver with a discharged battery because the petrol engine's drive train doesn't, in effect, actually have first, second, or even third gear (as the EV-side normally handles that, early doors stuff). So my sympathy also extends to the dilemmas faced under the bonnet. As AI co-pilot (no pun) says: "This revving isn’t necessarily a fault—it’s often a byproduct of how hybrids manage power. But the feel of it can vary wildly between brands. Toyota’s system is smooth but droney, Kia’s can feel gear-hungry, and MG’s (as you’ve seen) can be a bit shouty without much go." I thank, amongst others, KenK, mick78, and Noel for their input on this thread. I have picked up from the thread to consider / test going to Sport mode when negotiating hills, to look at lifting the foot when the revs build, and that the regen setting might default to 2 for a reason not unconnected to this issue (compared to the ZS EV default of regen 3 setting).
 
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I substantially agree with RussBaum and for the sake of discussion I report what I wrote in another part of the forum:
I would like to point out that I live in Monferrato, Piedmont, Italy and therefore in a generally hilly area.

Having said that, let's start by saying that the general impression is very positive overall and this despite reading many criticisms on this and other forums had rather worried me.

In particular I was struck by the reports relating to frequent anomalous and unjustified increases in engine rpm and also those relating to sudden and inexplicable drops in power, especially uphill and when overtaking.

Let's say right away that I have never noticed drops in power, in any driving mode and on any route; when necessary the car has always provided me with the required power quickly and effectively, even beyond what one would expect from an SUV without particular sporting ambitions. On even rather long hilly routes the car has always tackled the climbs with determination, drawing if necessary on a rather brilliant power reserve, capable of reaching even significant speeds in relation to the characteristics of the road. Similarly, when overtaking I have never had any problems nor could I have wished for a more prompt and immediate response.

Now let's come to the problem of engine revs. I would like to make a premise. Coming from over fifty years of driving petrol or turbodiesel cars with manual transmission, I must say that I have always driven with two specific parts of the body: the butt and the ears... one to "feel" the car's set-up and the others to hear the engine in relation to the selected gear and the power request. I have discovered that this method with a hybrid car is not only useless, but even misleading. In fact, in a hybrid system (or better at least in this hybrid system) the behavior of the internal combustion engine (and therefore its sound and the number of revolutions at which it delivers power) is very often completely disconnected from what your foot does with the accelerator; this is because the required power is regularly and promptly supplied not only by the combustion engine, but by the hybrid system as a whole, while the combustion engine can autonomously decide to commit part of its power to recharging the battery. So what in a petrol car with manual transmission could certainly be interpreted as an unjustified “over-revving”, in the automatic management of this car appears quite normal. In other words, I have experienced that in 80% of cases the combustion engine travels from 0 to 2300 rpm, at motorway speeds (130 km/h) around 3000 and only on sporadic occasions, when an uphill road is combined with the need to recharge the battery, it reaches 4000. But even when travelling around 70/80 km/h, the number of revolutions is often not immediately connected to what is required by the accelerator (both more and less) precisely because of the need to recharge the battery.

I have to say that even if I understand the logic I'm not completely used to it yet, but it's three weeks of driving against fifty years...

As for consumption, it's still too early to monitor refueling, but the car's system gives me 5.2 litres/100km on the overall route and 3.9 litres/100km on urban routes, which, even taking into account the manufacturer's intrinsic optimism, seems like an excellent result to me.

Finally, a special mention for the excellent 360-degree camera system, which makes it truly impossible to make a mistake even in the most complicated parking.
 
New Member Alert. Joined the forum due to the high revving issue. Save you all the details however now discussing the issue with the Financial Ombudsman, Motor Ombudsman and Trading Standards so you can tell my thought on the "Characteristic of the vehicle". Though I would share this gem with you all that landed in my inbox today from MG UK

Regarding the over revving I do believe it has been confirmed to be a characteristic of the vehicle as it does not affect the drivability of the vehicle, however, MG are working with the factory to create an update that provide better comfort for driving.

Needless to say I am not buying it.
 
New Member Alert. Joined the forum due to the high revving issue. Save you all the details however now discussing the issue with the Financial Ombudsman, Motor Ombudsman and Trading Standards so you can tell my thought on the "Characteristic of the vehicle". Though I would share this gem with you all that landed in my inbox today from MG UK

Regarding the over revving I do believe it has been confirmed to be a characteristic of the vehicle as it does not affect the drivability of the vehicle, however, MG are working with the factory to create an update that provide better comfort for driving.

Needless to say I am not buying it.
They should be doing stand up 🙀
 
Seems to be a favourite word for MG.
"Characteristic" The same with the,
X Power "Vibes" Only effects some cars and not others. Some owners report their cars are totally fine. So summut wrong somewhere. 🤔
 
I bought MG ZS Hybrid+ on 22nd June, have similar problems. very frustrating !. Not even a month

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