MGS6 getting closer

[LenEV2016]

Cabin has come on leaps and bounds from the 4

 

[MG Clive]

Love the way the automated voice commentary reads MG as milligram

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Cabin has come on leaps and bounds from the 4

Sounds like an AI narration - WTF is a milligram platform?

 

[tsedge]

Cabin has come on leaps and bounds from the 4

Looks nice.

But I do dislike the AI voiceover which called it "milligram" instead of MG at one point!

 

[tsedge]

Ah - we all made the same comment at the same time!

 

[tsedge]

Nice to see good improvements here on top of the MGS5.... now we need MG's focus to shift to after sales and improving software and they will finally be a match for European makes.

 

[LenEV2016]

Love the way the automated voice commentary reads MG as milligram

Nice to see good improvements here on top of the MGS5.... now we need MG's focus to shift to after sales and improving software and they will finally be a match for European makes.

Watched it on mute as hard at work, the software on the screen looked more like the mg4 software rather than what comes with the IM cars, will be interesting to see how it performs as there are still "quirks" with the S5

 

[tsedge]

Watched it on mute as hard at work, the software on the screen looked more like the mg4 software rather than what comes with the IM cars, will be interesting to see how it performs as there are still "quirks" with the S5

I believe the MGS5 and MGS6 software is an evolution of the MG4 software, running on better hardware and with improvements. The IMs run something entirely different AFAICS.

Yes, the MGS5 has some issues. I think they are principally related to cost-cutting, such as getting rid of the front radar in favour of a vision system, which causes problems with ACC and AEB.

 

[Joningy]

The price ranges don't overlap with the IM6 and it is quite a different offering in terms of the architecture (400/800V), battery size, charging speed, interior, range and tech.

You could say the top-of-the-range is only £4k less than the entry level IM6, but thats 2wd vs 4wd and quite a different offering.

So the list pricing makes sense to me, although it will be interesting to see if discounting ends up keeping, widening or narrowing that gap.

I agree with @tsedge but my focus has turned away from the IM range for various reasons and focused on the S6, hoping it will be even better ironed out than it's predecessors.
I absolutely love the ability to switch off by touching a couple of screen buttons most of the annoying Euro NCAP requirements, despite the authorities recommending we leave them turned on.

I love most aspects of my S5, but as regular readers of this blog will be aware, I have a few issues which STILL remain unresolved, but I'm happily living with them (adaptive cruise control and auto dipping headlights)

But I liked the heavily discounted price I paid, which I now consider was commensurate with the crap customer service myself and others are getting.

As such I'm looking forward to seeing the S6, I'm also thinking MG will be aggressively discounting the list price as the S5 was and still is, but it probably won't happen for the first few months of its arrival here in the UK.

But (A-BIG-BUTT) before I decide on changing cars again, I'll be looking much closer and harder at after sales customer service from the other manufacturers and my decision may involve paying more money for a better service!

SO LOOK OUT MG! as much as I love the brand.
If you want to drive customers away, keep up the abysmal customer service, it's the worst I've ever experienced in 60 years of driving.

 

[Bam Bam]

I believe the MGS5 and MGS6 software is an evolution of the MG4 software, running on better hardware and with improvements. The IMs run something entirely different AFAICS.

Yes, this is what I was told at Everything Electric.

IM cars were a joint development with IT companies.

 

[NikLiverpool]

IMs are a different league compared. But the S6 looks a serious contender for the mid SUV market.
The pricing is really good too.
As my wife commended yesterday the mid spec is only 1k more expensive than the BYD atto3 (her car) with much better interior space, good front boot (Atto has none), massive boot compared and equivalent interior quality (at least visually).
If priced aggressively it will do a lot of damage to other brands.

 

[LenEV2016]

IMs are a different league compared. But the S6 looks a serious contender for the mid SUV market.
The pricing is really good too.
As my wife commended yesterday the mid spec is only 1k more expensive than the BYD atto3 (her car) with much better interior space, good front boot (Atto has none), massive boot compared and equivalent interior quality (at least visually).
If priced aggressively it will do a lot of damage to other brands.

The luxury car tax could harm some sales of the 6 as MG is perceived a s a budget brand at the moment.
IM cars will not be harmed by it in my opinion as they are pitched as a stand-alone premium brand

 

[NikLiverpool]

The luxury car tax could harm some sales of the 6 as MG is perceived a s a budget brand at the moment.
IM cars will not be harmed by it in my opinion as they are pitched as a stand-alone premium brand

True but there are ways around it. An MG contribution on a finance deal for example can easily absorb the car tax cost.

 

[LenEV2016]

True but there are ways around it. An MG contribution on a finance deal for example can easily absorb the car tax cost.

People would look for a contribution anyway, the paying £600 a year for ved is another matter completely and the luxury car tax threshold for EVs needs looked at.

 

[tsedge]

People would look for a contribution anyway, the wholes paying £600 a year for ved is another matter completely and the luxury car tax threshold for EVs needs looked at.

The luxury car tax was introduced in 2017 at £40,000. Following the BoE's own calculator, with inflation it should now be £54,000.

 

[LenEV2016]

The luxury car tax was introduced in 2017 at £40,000. Following the BoE's own calculator, with inflation it should now be £54,000.

It definitely needs looked at, I am happy paying £195 VED, I see no reason now why EVs shouldn't.
I do however believe that they could change the £40k threshold just for EVs as another incentive to assist uptake.

 

[Joningy]

True but there are ways around it. An MG contribution on a finance deal for example can easily absorb the car tax cost.

I believe it's the retail price which determines the tax band and as I read it, whatever you manage to get in the way of discount, makes no difference to the Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) paid, known as the Expensive Car Supplement, if it's over the threshold at full retail it's £620 instead of £195. I think!
Somebody will know for sure!

 

[tsedge]

I believe it's the retail price which determines the tax band and as I read it, whatever you manage to get in the way of discount, makes no difference to the Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) paid, known as the Expensive Car Supplement, if it's over the threshold at full retail it's £620 instead of £195. I think!
Somebody will know for sure!

I believe Nik meant that the dealer contribution can cover the extra VED, not that it will take you under the threshold.

 

[Joningy]

The S6 has the same generic design as the S5, but looks good.
It does have a few nice enhancements, like ventilated and heated front seats, a useful decent size "frunk" seems to have a sunroof in the video, but not sure UK will be getting it as with the S5, shown everywhere with a sunroof, but this one is UK registered, well just have to wait a little longer.
This is the car I was told (by my local MG sales manager) would arrive earlier this year, but it was beaten by the S5, it just shows MG don't even tell their sales teams what's going on!
It definitely has an interesting & nice looking interior, I'm sure over the coming weeks/months, lots more details will be revealed.

 

[Joningy]

I believe Nik meant that the dealer contribution can cover the extra VED, not that it will take you under the threshold.

I'm sure you are right @tsedge, it needs to be a reasonabley healthy discount as with my S5 to tempt some to pay the £620 each year.
The additional £425 a year, is enough to deter some like me (effing mean )
I think favourite to keep it under the £40k retail trigger or persuade our government to increase the Expensive Car Supplement threshold.
But who knows, or understands how Chinese car manufacturers think! Let alone our own government.