NikLiverpool

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Well dropped the kids at school today and carried on driving to work.
At one point of my route I go through 30 areas and then there is a sharp turn to a road with 60 limit. Surprisingly this morning traffic was dead and that road was empty...
Took the turn, activated sport mode and bloody heeeellll...This is proper scary stuff. Nose of the car lifted up and I was on the brakes pooping myself :O Didn't even realise that I hit 60.

On a more serious side; I cant see it being usable to be fair. Car becomes extremely jerky, you feather the pedal and it jumps. I think I will stick to ECO lol.
 
Well dropped the kids at school today and carried on driving to work.
At one point of my route I go through 30 areas and then there is a sharp turn to a road with 60 limit. Surprisingly this morning traffic was dead and that road was empty...
Took the turn, activated sport mode and bloody heeeellll...This is proper scary stuff. Nose of the car lifted up and I was on the brakes pooping myself :O Didn't even realise that I hit 60.

On a more serious side; I cant see it being usable to be fair. Car becomes extremely jerky, you feather the pedal and it jumps. I think I will stick to ECO lol.
I think with current road conditions, traction is a real issue. It is a heavy car but tyres and compounds remain the same as other cars. That applies to all EVs being heavier. the jerkiness is probably all the stability controls kicking in. Shifts between front and rear torque and torque limitation. So the wheels start slipping, torque gets cut, wheel grip then torque applied etc. Being electric, it would be much more violent than ICE. Forget about this lard of a car, have you not seen those clips of 5-600+bhp Ferraris and Lambos spinning off?

We have 745bhp. And no torque curve, or should I say, a torque cliff!
 
To be fair I didn't notice any slipping or loss of steering control.
The pedal response was jerky. I mean I was feathering the pedal and the car was jumping forward.
I am really surprised by some reviews where they claim that there is lag in the acceleration.
I experienced nothing but lag. It went like a rocket. Reminded me of the Tesla model X I had for a month (long story) which was the top spec and had the ludicrous mode.
 
To be fair I didn't notice any slipping or loss of steering control.
The pedal response was jerky. I mean I was feathering the pedal and the car was jumping forward.
I am really surprised by some reviews where they claim that there is lag in the acceleration.
I experienced nothing but lag. It went like a rocket. Reminded me of the Tesla model X I had for a month (long story) which was the top spec and had the ludicrous mode.
No you won't notice. The stability contril kicked in. Adjusting and regulating torque.
 
I will agree that Sport mode is somewhat violent, but fun nonetheless the less…occasionally. Traction is indeed the limiting factor. With my single motor in Comfort mode, on dry concrete, full throttle produces a definitely perceptible lateral wiggle in my butt as it hunts for traction varying between the two rear tires. I assume the twin motor models have even more trouble launching. The real acceleration begins at about 8-12 kph on the graph where the TC isn’t hunting any more.
I am very pleased with the Comfort throttle mapping. It feels like the response is ‘slow’ at low speed, avoiding jumpy changes, and somewhat faster at higher speeds. It creeps along at 2 kph quite controllably, while flooring it at 100 kph produces neck snapping go. This response curve feels very much like the response curve I reprogrammed into my BMW 540. Start with a gentle linear slope, 15-20°, then transition to a Bézier curve that asymptotically approaches full throttle at full pedal. Two minutes with my laptop I could quickly move the transition point based upon the track and surface conditions.
 
I will agree that Sport mode is somewhat violent, but fun nonetheless the less…occasionally. Traction is indeed the limiting factor. With my single motor in Comfort mode, on dry concrete, full throttle produces a definitely perceptible lateral wiggle in my butt as it hunts for traction varying between the two rear tires. I assume the twin motor models have even more trouble launching. The real acceleration begins at about 8-12 kph on the graph where the TC isn’t hunting any more.
I am very pleased with the Comfort throttle mapping. It feels like the response is ‘slow’ at low speed, avoiding jumpy changes, and somewhat faster at higher speeds. It creeps along at 2 kph quite controllably, while flooring it at 100 kph produces neck snapping go. This response curve feels very much like the response curve I reprogrammed into my BMW 540. Start with a gentle linear slope, 15-20°, then transition to a Bézier curve that asymptotically approaches full throttle at full pedal. Two minutes with my laptop I could quickly move the transition point based upon the track and surface conditions.
Why would the twin motors have trouble launching? The torque will be transferred, or rather engaged at the front axle while the rear reduced. So the torque on each wheel will remain within the limits of traction, but total torque and therefore drive will be greater. An LSD though (you can tell I am a big fan!0 will allow for more rear bias. Ie wheel slip. But as both wheels will be locked, you can get away with putting more out through the rear. This has advantages as the wheel slip generates heat, increasing grip. The weight transfer increases contact pressure and grip.
 
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