Things that make you go Arrrgghhh

There's a fairly quite 100km/hr coast road in the country North of Perth. A bit of a tourist drive. There's been some bad crashes, on blind bends, with tourists, used to driving on the opposite side of the road.

When in Europe, I did have trouble with a roundabout, going the wrong way round. Don't remember how I got out of that
 
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People who slow down to a near stop when coming to traffic lights on green.

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Sounds a bit like my wife although she's not that bad, but she does slow down in case they turn red. I on the other hand speed up in case they turn red. :D
I wonder how common a thing this difference may be ?
 
Sounds a bit like my wife although she's not that bad, but she does slow down in case they turn red. I on the other hand speed up in case they turn red. :D
I wonder how common a thing this difference may be ?

When I was at uni, and we'd all just passed our tests, my best friend was the only person who had a car of her own. (Dead useful that was.) She did the slowing down in case the lights turned red and it used to drive me mad!
 
In the days when you had Grandfather rights to drive 7.5t, I used to say that everyone should pass their test in a 7.5t truck, then they wouldn't have any bother handling anything smaller. Nowadays, I'd have to downgrade it the largest vehicle you can drive on a car licence (is it 3.5t?) but the principle remains. Some people pass their test in a supermini, then go out and buy a Chelsea Tractor and have no idea how to drive or park it.

I don't drive any more due to an eyesight issue, but I used to do massive mileages commercially and privately.

I cringe at some of the stuff I see on the road in the last 13 years. From so-called professional drivers too!

The biggest changes to driving behaviour I have seen since I passed my test are:

Joining M'ways and DCs: It seems to be the give way rule has been reversed: now it seems that drivers on the slip expect drivers on the road to let them in. I was always taught that I had to adjust my speed to fit into traffic on the road, but that if I couldn't join safely, I would have to expect to come to a halt on the slip and wait for an opportunity to do so. Rules may have changed since then.

MSM: IF the indicator is used at all, it is used as if it would magically allow immediate passage wherever the driver wants to go.
Have you ever watched some drivers cross the lane markings and THEN indicate! That's worse than useless. What's their thought process? "I know, I'll indicate to show my intention to change lanes AFTER I have done the deed!"

Trying to keep the 2 second rule: You are keeping up with traffic, and trying to keep a decent gap between you and the car in front, but the car behind is impatient and overtakes you on the inside and pulls in front, meaning you have to drop back to regain the distance.
TBF, one of the worst pieces of driving I saw was not recently. I was on the M40 near Thame and there's a bit of an uphill there. There were lorries in lanes one and cars overtaking them in lane two, so I moved into lane three, behind someone who was doing around 65. There was no one else in front of this fella.
Up behind me shoots a widebody sales "exec" in his Mondeo, waving a hand about excitedly, all the while flashing his headlights. I'm not quite sure what he expected me to do. I had the chap in front, and traffic to my left. He got closer and closer. I held my nerve until I found space and pulled over into the second lane. I let him past, then pulled back into the third lane, whereupon he immediately did exactly the same to the chap who was in front of me.
After a couple of minutes of watching him drive closer and closer, the guy in front pulled over. Mr Mondeo's reaction?

To take both hands off the wheel, put them above his head and clap, as if to show me "That's how you do it!"

Selfishness/ Entitled: Stopping in the middle of the street (without parking up properly) to post letters or pick up/ drop off someone, holding everyone up behind them. Of course, sounding the horn elicits an angry response.

That leads to an interesting point. If I made a mistake on the road (not leading to a collision), and someone beeped me, I would apologise. I wouldn't roll down the window and give it the F word. So why is it that if you sound your horn at another driver they take it so personally that they start shouting, swearing and in some cases, get out and engage in physical violence? Indeed some drivers have been killed.

Anyhoo, on with the list...

Parking on zig-zags: And here the so-called professional drivers are in the line of fire again. Delivery drivers, taxi drivers....

Drivers not giving way to pedestrians: I have seen a few examples myself of drivers honking pedestrians who have begun to cross the road before the driver even turned the corner.
I had just stepped onto a pelican myself in the village when a taxi went through. The light was green for me and the beeper was going. A second later and who knows what could have happened... I confess I only looked one way and it was left not right. I always look both ways now.

Pushbikes: Vehicles not giving them enough clearance. Special mention to the people who believe that because they as drivers pay "road tax" (abolished 1937), and cyclists don't, they have a right to grind them into the tarmac...

Brands: It is well known that drivers of certain car brands are seen to be more likely to do stupid or selfish or dangerous things on the road. IME over the years, these are:

BMW
Audi
Mercedes
Range Rover

And more recently, though it pains me to say it because I have owned one,

Skoda

Maybe the cost of living crisis is hitting Audi drivers?

Talking of Range Rovers, I was once lightly rear ended by an old tatty one, in heavy rush hour traffic, so I pulled over. The RR did not, it just sat in the middle of the road, holding everyone up. I got out, and, staying on the passenger side so I wasn't in the road, asked the passenger to wind down the window so I could speak to the driver.

Reluctantly, the window was opened, but what I got was an absolute faceful of swearing from a teenage pupil of a very elite private school. She told me categorically that they did not crash into me. "I'm sorry," I said, "I think you're under the misapprehension that you have the steering wheel in front of you. Now, I think I'd better speak to the person who does."

The car was later inspected and found not to be damaged.
 
In the days when you had Grandfather rights to drive 7.5t, I used to say that everyone should pass their test in a 7.5t truck, then they wouldn't have any bother handling anything smaller. Nowadays, I'd have to downgrade it the largest vehicle you can drive on a car licence (is it 3.5t?) but the principle remains. Some people pass their test in a supermini, then go out and buy a Chelsea Tractor and have no idea how to drive or park it.

I don't drive any more due to an eyesight issue, but I used to do massive mileages commercially and privately.

I cringe at some of the stuff I see on the road in the last 13 years. From so-called professional drivers too!

The biggest changes to driving behaviour I have seen since I passed my test are:

Joining M'ways and DCs: It seems to be the give way rule has been reversed: now it seems that drivers on the slip expect drivers on the road to let them in. I was always taught that I had to adjust my speed to fit into traffic on the road, but that if I couldn't join safely, I would have to expect to come to a halt on the slip and wait for an opportunity to do so. Rules may have changed since then.

MSM: IF the indicator is used at all, it is used as if it would magically allow immediate passage wherever the driver wants to go.
Have you ever watched some drivers cross the lane markings and THEN indicate! That's worse than useless. What's their thought process? "I know, I'll indicate to show my intention to change lanes AFTER I have done the deed!"

Trying to keep the 2 second rule: You are keeping up with traffic, and trying to keep a decent gap between you and the car in front, but the car behind is impatient and overtakes you on the inside and pulls in front, meaning you have to drop back to regain the distance.
TBF, one of the worst pieces of driving I saw was not recently. I was on the M40 near Thame and there's a bit of an uphill there. There were lorries in lanes one and cars overtaking them in lane two, so I moved into lane three, behind someone who was doing around 65. There was no one else in front of this fella.
Up behind me shoots a widebody sales "exec" in his Mondeo, waving a hand about excitedly, all the while flashing his headlights. I'm not quite sure what he expected me to do. I had the chap in front, and traffic to my left. He got closer and closer. I held my nerve until I found space and pulled over into the second lane. I let him past, then pulled back into the third lane, whereupon he immediately did exactly the same to the chap who was in front of me.
After a couple of minutes of watching him drive closer and closer, the guy in front pulled over. Mr Mondeo's reaction?

To take both hands off the wheel, put them above his head and clap, as if to show me "That's how you do it!"

Selfishness/ Entitled: Stopping in the middle of the street (without parking up properly) to post letters or pick up/ drop off someone, holding everyone up behind them. Of course, sounding the horn elicits an angry response.

That leads to an interesting point. If I made a mistake on the road (not leading to a collision), and someone beeped me, I would apologise. I wouldn't roll down the window and give it the F word. So why is it that if you sound your horn at another driver they take it so personally that they start shouting, swearing and in some cases, get out and engage in physical violence? Indeed some drivers have been killed.

Anyhoo, on with the list...

Parking on zig-zags: And here the so-called professional drivers are in the line of fire again. Delivery drivers, taxi drivers....

Drivers not giving way to pedestrians: I have seen a few examples myself of drivers honking pedestrians who have begun to cross the road before the driver even turned the corner.
I had just stepped onto a pelican myself in the village when a taxi went through. The light was green for me and the beeper was going. A second later and who knows what could have happened... I confess I only looked one way and it was left not right. I always look both ways now.

Pushbikes: Vehicles not giving them enough clearance. Special mention to the people who believe that because they as drivers pay "road tax" (abolished 1937), and cyclists don't, they have a right to grind them into the tarmac...

Brands: It is well known that drivers of certain car brands are seen to be more likely to do stupid or selfish or dangerous things on the road. IME over the years, these are:

BMW
Audi
Mercedes
Range Rover

And more recently, though it pains me to say it because I have owned one,

Skoda

Maybe the cost of living crisis is hitting Audi drivers?

Talking of Range Rovers, I was once lightly rear ended by an old tatty one, in heavy rush hour traffic, so I pulled over. The RR did not, it just sat in the middle of the road, holding everyone up. I got out, and, staying on the passenger side so I wasn't in the road, asked the passenger to wind down the window so I could speak to the driver.

Reluctantly, the window was opened, but what I got was an absolute faceful of swearing from a teenage pupil of a very elite private school. She told me categorically that they did not crash into me. "I'm sorry," I said, "I think you're under the misapprehension that you have the steering wheel in front of you. Now, I think I'd better speak to the person who does."

The car was later inspected and found not to be damaged.

Unfortunately, all that's changed now into, a free for all. 🙄🤪
 
People who drive over the top of a mini roundabout as though it shouldn't be there. Had a corker this morning; the car in front of me indicating right at a mini roundabout. The car opposite was indicating right and proceeded to go around the roundabout. The car in front of me ignored the white disk painted on the road and drove right over it, causing the car opposite to slam on their brakes as the car turned across their path.
 
You forgot the FIAT 500 ... trainee Audi drivers. :)
Don't mention Fart In A Tin 500's to me. I've got one of those white shoe boxes as a courtesy car at the moment. It is that under powered they've put a 6 speed box in it.
 
You think foxes are bad, you should try kangaroos.
I'm REALLY irritated at the moment. Our Tesla needs to go in for repair after a suicidal fox ran in front of it on an unlit section of dual carriageway. Was doing just over 60 in a 70 limit, there was nowhere safe to stop till I came to a layby half a mile down the road to assess the damage. The car's drivable. As for the fox, who knows - it was too dangerous to go back to check on it.
Try billy badger or Bambi they make a mess as well

People that indicate at the same time as actually making a left or right turn....
Absolutely annoying as I am now already aware your turning that direction by you actually turning.
If they had done the bare minimum of a couple seconds notice with the indicator other could either be aware to slow down sooner or pull out, but no. We all have to wait due to these people that indicate when they start turning instead.
I’m a truck driver and see that a lot
Or the ones who do indicate on a roundabout or take a specific line and get the hump if I pull out

Yep, happened to me a few times, usually at night. When I was driving a Gritter.
Think I would've won. 🙂
Yep why do car driver aim at truck it’s a lose lose for them

Self employed tradesmen who play chicken with my 44t truck ,
I don’t care I’m employed if you put this truck off the road my boss will just get another one on hire and charge you for my wages
I don’t own it like them and rely on it out right

Not indicating. 🤬
Drivers who don't acknowledge when you've let them out. 🤬
Constant lane changing, just to get,
5 yards further on, and then usually don't finish up any further. 🤬
And just, tossers in general on the road, and there's a lot of um. 🤬
Do you drive a truck like me ?
That’s every day
 
Do you drive a truck like me ?
That’s every day

Nope. Used to drive a Gritter, but obviously that was mostly at night. But even then there where tossers on the the road. I could imagine driving a truck full time, being a nightmare at times. 🙄🤪
 
Nope. Used to drive a Gritter, but obviously that was mostly at night. But even then there where tossers on the the road. I could imagine driving a truck full time, being a nightmare at times. 🙄🤪
It’s only the mortgage that keeps me doing it 7 more years
Wouldn’t do it other wise
 
Don't mention Fart In A Tin 500's to me. I've got one of those white shoe boxes as a courtesy car at the moment. It is that under powered they've put a 6 speed box in it.

I had one of these to get me home after getting the first puncture on the Hardknott pass. Ghastly thing. Had to drive it up the M6.
 
Now while I agree with most of what you say I have to take issue with a couple of items.

So why is it that if you sound your horn at another driver they take it so personally that they start shouting, swearing and in some cases, get out and engage in physical violence? Indeed some drivers have been killed.
I think the answer to this is fairly obvious, they may be in the wrong but you started shouting first.

I had just stepped onto a pelican myself in the village when a taxi went through. The light was green for me and the beeper was going. A second later and who knows what could have happened... I confess I only looked one way and it was left not right. I always look both ways now.
I'm surprised you forgot your lessons from Mr Tufty and the kerb drill from the Green Cross Code, halt, look right, look left, look right again, if all clear, quick march!

:)
 
I did, that's why I look both ways now. But I wonder if everyone does on a pelican, when the light is green for them and the beeper is going!

But Mr Tufty it is from now on...
 
I think the answer to this is fairly obvious, they may be in the wrong but you started shouting first.
If someone sounded their horn at me and I had made a mistake, I'd be the first to admit it and apologise, I wouldn't go all testosterone on them!

Are you saying most drivers would get upset to the point of yelling, getting out, or worse, if they were honked at?
 
I did, that's why I look both ways now. But I wonder if everyone does on a pelican, when the light is green for them and the beeper is going!

But Mr Tufty it is from now on...
With the idiots around my way I definitely still keep looking both ways when crossing with the green man in my favour . Too many drivers see amber and accelerate hoping to beat them 90% don't 😞
 
People who drive over the top of a mini roundabout as though it shouldn't be there. Had a corker this morning; the car in front of me indicating right at a mini roundabout. The car opposite was indicating right and proceeded to go around the roundabout. The car in front of me ignored the white disk painted on the road and drove right over it, causing the car opposite to slam on their brakes as the car turned across their path.
If it's just painted on the road and not raised, then you can drive straight over it. At least that's what my driving instructor taught me. The flat ones are usually in spots where a raised one would be too tight to drive around.
 
You're still supposed to make an effort to go around it, crossing over it with your right wheels, and not simply cross over it with your left wheels (thus cutting the roundabout).
 
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