Tips for using public chargers

[Coulomb]

I pressed it to stop mine charging as it wouldn’t stop by flashing the RFID card at it. It stopped my and the car in the next bay.

That's a pretty spectacular bug , in my humble opinion! Crikey! Well done the testing department.

 

[Fintious maximus]

That's a pretty spectacular bug , in my humble opinion! Crikey! Well done the testing department.

When I say next bay - they were using the same charger but a different cable so not like I stopped a different machine

 

[Coulomb]

they were using the same charger but a different cable

Well that's like 2 supposedly separate chargers in the same unit, sharing a screen. So still totally bizarre to me.

 

[Jules in Bris]

Hi.
Not sure if it is something I am doing or if it's a vehicle fault. I have a brand new MG5 Trophy and I cannot get the car to charge using public chargers. I have tried numerous chargers when I plug in the charger I get the two blue lights but the car cannot seem to link to the charger. Only once have I had a seamless connection now I am having major problems. Have tips greatly appreciated.

Hi, I have 2023 MG ZSEV long range in Australia. I had never used a fast DC charger but needed to use one this month as I was travelling a bit further. I tested out the car on three networks and many chargers and they all failed with a "Communications error". I took it to the dealer and got the firmware updated. This fixed the fault.
Could this be the issue with your car?

 

[trina77]

Hi.
Not sure if it is something I am doing or if it's a vehicle fault. I have a brand new MG5 Trophy and I cannot get the car to charge using public chargers. I have tried numerous chargers when I plug in the charger I get the two blue lights but the car cannot seem to link to the charger. Only once have I had a seamless connection now I am having major problems. Have tips greatly appreciated.

I have mg zs I needed a new part as would only slow charge ..a common issue apparently

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

Using AI to help charging: My smart daughter in law in Belgium, proud new first-time lessor of a big fat Audi EV, asked GPT4 to find and evaluate the best charging apps for France (she goes there a lot), looking for coverage, on high speed chargers, an RFID card and an app, pay as you go and for best rates. She reviewed the report - done in seconds by the way - and chose Engie Vianeo and now I have too.

 

[pemmery1965]

Using AI to help charging: my smart daughter in law in Belgium, proud new first-time lessor of a big fat Audi EV, asked GPT4 to find and evaluate the best charging apps for France (she goes there a lot) looing for coverage, on high speed chargers, an RFID card and an app, pay as you go and for best rates. She reviwed the report - done in seconds by the way - and chose Engie Vianeo and now I have too.

Sounds like great idea. Never thought about AI assistance.

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

The daughter in law is part of a household where hubby has used AI in writing software code some time before it exploded into the media (it writes code from ordinary English or Dutch or whatever, then tests it and debugs it and delivers it); and their two kids, teenagers, use it legit for school where now a knowledge of AI is a pre-requisite for university study, thesis research, declaring sources. I use GPT4 (the free version) for research for my novels; soon it will be integrated into operating systems by Apple, Microsoft. It's the biggest 'industrial revolution' since the invention of the steam engine. Here is an example: ** ME ASKING CHAT GPT 4: Please rank best to worst the battery electric cars in the British market for efficiency by which I mean the number of miles per kilowatt hour of battery. in a table with the make, model, efficiency rating and max range. Filter by all 2024 models cars under a price new of £35,000. END

This result took under 5 seconds:
Here’s the updated table in a cleaner format suitable for Word or email:

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Top 2024 Electric Cars in the UK Market (Under £35,000)
Ranked by Efficiency (Miles per kWh)

Rank	Make & Model	Efficiency (miles/kWh)	Max Range (miles)	Price (£)
1	Renault Megane E-Tech	4.87	285	~27,818
2	MG4 SE	4.55	281	~23,669
3	MG ZS EV	4.00	273	~23,495
4	Hyundai Kona Electric	3.88	319	~33,822
5	Kia Niro EV	3.80	285	~33,920
6	Citroën e-C4	3.60	260	~27,990
7	BYD Dolphin	3.50	265	~28,485
8	GWM Ora 3 Pro+	3.50	261	~30,695
9	Cupra Born	3.40	262	~32,765
10	Omoda E5	3.30	257	~33,055

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Please note that efficiency figures are approximate and can vary based on driving conditions, vehicle specifications, and other factors. Prices are estimates and may vary depending on configurations and optional features.

The Renault Megane E-Tech leads in efficiency among the listed models, offering approximately 4.87 miles per kWh and a maximum range of around 285 miles, all for a price under £28,000.

The MG4 SE and MG ZS EV also provide commendable efficiency and range at competitive prices, making them attractive options in this segment.

While the Hyundai Kona Electric offers the longest range of 319 miles, its efficiency is slightly lower at approximately 3.88 miles per kWh, and it approaches the £35,000 price cap.

It's important to consider both efficiency and range in the context of your driving needs. Higher efficiency means more miles per unit of energy, potentially lowering running costs, while a longer range can reduce the frequency of charging stops on longer journeys.

For more detailed information and the latest updates, you may refer to sources like Dylan's Car Reviews.

 

[Gomev]

This result took under 5 seconds:
Here’s the updated table in a cleaner format suitable for Word or email:

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Top 2024 Electric Cars in the UK Market (Under £35,000)
Ranked by Efficiency (Miles per kWh)

Rank	Make & Model	Efficiency (miles/kWh)	Max Range (miles)	Price (£)
1	Renault Megane E-Tech	4.87	285	~27,818
2	MG4 SE	4.55	281	~23,669
3	MG ZS EV	4.00	273	~23,495
4	Hyundai Kona Electric	3.88	319	~33,822
5	Kia Niro EV	3.80	285	~33,920
6	Citroën e-C4	3.60	260	~27,990
7	BYD Dolphin	3.50	265	~28,485
8	GWM Ora 3 Pro+	3.50	261	~30,695
9	Cupra Born	3.40	262	~32,765
10	Omoda E5	3.30	257	~33,055

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Please note that efficiency figures are approximate and can vary based on driving conditions, vehicle specifications, and other factors. Prices are estimates and may vary depending on configurations and optional features.

The Renault Megane E-Tech leads in efficiency among the listed models, offering approximately 4.87 miles per kWh and a maximum range of around 285 miles, all for a price under £28,000.

The MG4 SE and MG ZS EV also provide commendable efficiency and range at competitive prices, making them attractive options in this segment.

While the Hyundai Kona Electric offers the longest range of 319 miles, its efficiency is slightly lower at approximately 3.88 miles per kWh, and it approaches the £35,000 price cap.

It's important to consider both efficiency and range in the context of your driving needs. Higher efficiency means more miles per unit of energy, potentially lowering running costs, while a longer range can reduce the frequency of charging stops on longer journeys.

For more detailed information and the latest updates, you may refer to sources like Dylan's Car Reviews.

Very fast and easy for the user, but is the data correct ?

For example the Megane at #1, list price for the 60kWh model is £37,000 and cheapest available new online around the £31,000 mark (Autotrader). As for efficiency EV database puts it at c.3.9m/kWh with a real range of 235 miles.
The larger battery 87kWh version start at over £40k so assuming it's not that one although it's real range is nearer the figure in your AI table with 300 miles but efficiency is only 3.4m/kWh.

The AI may be quick but it also pays to do a bit of research to validate the answers, a final sense check.

A similar answer to yours, but with different results, can also be obtained very quickly by using the filter buttons on EV Database. The below link uses the same criteria and took no longer.

https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&rs-pr=10000_35000&rs-er=0_500&rs-fc=0_1000&rs-ac=2_23&rs-ts=60_260&rs-ub=10_200&rs-tw=0_2500&rs-ef=150_600&rs-sa=-1_5&rs-w=1000_3500&rs-c=0_5000&rs-y=2010_2030&s=8&p=0-10

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

Very fast and easy for the user, but is the data correct ?

For example the Megane at #1, list price for the 60kWh model is £37,000 and cheapest available new online around the £31,000 mark (Autotrader). As for efficiency EV database puts it at c.3.9m/kWh with a real range of 235 miles.
The larger battery 87kWh version start at over £40k so assuming it's not that one although it's real range is nearer the figure in your AI table with 300 miles but efficiency is only 3.4m/kWh.

The AI may be quick but it also pays to do a bit of research to validate the answers, a final sense check.

A similar answer to yours, but with different results, can also be obtained very quickly by using the filter buttons on EV Database. The below link uses the same criteria and took no longer.

https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&rs-pr=10000_35000&rs-er=0_500&rs-fc=0_1000&rs-ac=2_23&rs-ts=60_260&rs-ub=10_200&rs-tw=0_2500&rs-ef=150_600&rs-sa=-1_5&rs-w=1000_3500&rs-c=0_5000&rs-y=2010_2030&s=8&p=0-10

ABSOLUTELY - but the legwork is done with such speed; also and not a lot of people know this, GPT's results can be tuned iterively which means you just go on asking that the results are refined, adjusted until the answer is at its best. And I think were prices are concerned, the variation of sticker price to real world selling price is likely to be the lest reliable for the AI to collect.

 

[Alibro]

Very fast and easy for the user, but is the data correct ?

For example the Megane at #1, list price for the 60kWh model is £37,000 and cheapest available new online around the £31,000 mark (Autotrader). As for efficiency EV database puts it at c.3.9m/kWh with a real range of 235 miles.
The larger battery 87kWh version start at over £40k so assuming it's not that one although it's real range is nearer the figure in your AI table with 300 miles but efficiency is only 3.4m/kWh.

The AI may be quick but it also pays to do a bit of research to validate the answers, a final sense check.

A similar answer to yours, but with different results, can also be obtained very quickly by using the filter buttons on EV Database. The below link uses the same criteria and took no longer.

https://ev-database.org/uk/#group=vehicle-group&av-1=1&rs-pr=10000_35000&rs-er=0_500&rs-fc=0_1000&rs-ac=2_23&rs-ts=60_260&rs-ub=10_200&rs-tw=0_2500&rs-ef=150_600&rs-sa=-1_5&rs-w=1000_3500&rs-c=0_5000&rs-y=2010_2030&s=8&p=0-10

Agreed, AI is very clever but often not correct.
A while ago I used it to write Arduino code (cause I suck at writing code) and it wrote code that wouldn't even compile. Even more strange when I asked the exact same question several times it produced several totally different results so always treat it with a large degree of caution.
I presume it is pulling results from the internet and presenting them as fact without doing the essential fact checking.

 

[Alb]

Makes me think of something I was told back in my working days:
Someone praised as a good manager often just has the ability to make poor decisions quickly.

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

All I can do is repeat: a professional IT chap who works at the cutting edge told me AI has transformed code writing in his firm; for myself, an aspiring author, writing 'prompts' for GPT-4 to develop some ideas for a series of thrillers set in 1960s swinging London with a female protagonist, in the jazz, soul, blues and folk music scene of the period, and so on produced in a few seconds more usable ideas than just staring at a black sheet of paper for a week. The T in GPT stands for TRANSFORMER and never was a truer word written.

 

[Alibro]

All I can do is repeat: a professional IT chap who works at the cutting edge told me AI has transformed code writing in his firm; for myself, an aspiring author, writing 'prompts' for GPT-4 to develop some ideas for a series of thrillers set in 1960s swinging London with a female protagonist, in the jazz, soul, blues and folk music scene of the period, and so on produced in a few seconds more usable ideas than just staring at a black sheet of paper for a week. The T in GPT stands for TRANSFORMER and never was a truer word written.

So long as we keep thinking of it as a useful tool we'll be OK but the rule for computers I was taught 30 years ago still stands.
Garbage in garbage out!

 

[Gomev]

All I can do is repeat: a professional IT chap who works at the cutting edge told me AI has transformed code writing in his firm; for myself, an aspiring author, writing 'prompts' for GPT-4 to develop some ideas for a series of thrillers set in 1960s swinging London with a female protagonist, in the jazz, soul, blues and folk music scene of the period, and so on produced in a few seconds more usable ideas than just staring at a black sheet of paper for a week. The T in GPT stands for TRANSFORMER and never was a truer word written.

As a professional IT chap myself, there have been code generators around since last century, however the code they produced was generally awful. It may work but generally was terribly constructed and rarely met standards. We could write the code ourselves in less than half as many lines of code and much neater and maintainable. They were basically tools for those that didn't have the staff to do it properly.
I think they must have (probably) improved, but I suspect a human can outperform them. It's not just about it working, it's about efficiency, documenting and maintainability.
I have nothing against AI, some of it is a great help but a lot is not really AI, it's just labelled AI and is no more than screen scrapers and formatters.
As others have said, you just need to take care and use that sense checking we all have and not take it all as correct and fact.
I know nothing about writing a book, but isn't research a fundamental part of it, Google etc, talking to people, knowing the area etc. Don't they always say, write about something you know about. Not that I could write anything, I have no flair for that type of thing. Good luck to you with that however you achieve it.

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

So long as we keep thinking of it as a useful tool we'll be OK but the rule for computers I was taught 30 years ago still stands.
Garbage in garbage out!

But the world isn't the same as when GIGO was current. The internet-isation of global knolwedge places resources that go beyond 'computing' at our disposal with undreamt of potential. Already new drug research has seen time cut to minute shreds because AI can process ideas at speeds no human can match; I strongly recommend you gt a GPT account (it's free, just sign up at OpenAI) and have a go, then come back and tell the foirum you are/are not amazed. The key skill you must get adept at is 'the prompt' - the instructions, with context and rules you define that will return results. Prompt engineers (as they are called) command salaries of 300,000 (dollars, pounds, euros, it doesn't matter).

 

[Gomev]

But the world isn't the same as when GIGO was current. The internet-isation of global knolwedge places resources that go beyond 'computing' at our disposal with undreamt of potential. Already new drug research has seen time cut to minute shreds because AI can process ideas at speeds no human can match; I strongly recommend you gt a GPT account (it's free, just sign up at OpenAI) and have a go, then come back and tell the foirum you are/are not amazed. The key skill you must get adept at is 'the prompt' - the instructions, with context and rules you define that will return results. Prompt engineers (as they are called) command salaries of 300,000 (dollars, pounds, euros, it doesn't matter).

But GIGO still exists. In your example a garbage 'prompt' will get a garbage response.

 

[John Sauve Rodd]

I think you one of those people who must always have the last word. You're welcome.