Tyres

[FarmEV]

Don't think it is looks like keyless control thingy

There is a round coil like object mounted under the cup holder adjacent to where you're encouraged to leave the key. I understand one of these antenna is also located in the center console.
My question is really: are there other places for these to be mounted on the car?

 

[N2STY]

My question is really: are there other places for these to be mounted on the car?

Sorry I can't answer not really had a good nose round at stuff like this yet i would guess three of them only as I see someone is breaking a car and they have 3 to sell I would be more worried if they need coding to the car who would of thought Chinese software will be so hard to get hold
Any way this is a bit off topic may be a mod could move posts 19 to 21 to ops new thread they opened? @Coulomb
To Parts List or wiring schematic or any service/repair info ZS EV.?

 

[Kithmo]

That is one reason another reason with the rears taking a long time to wear is the side walls start to crack

I'm lucky that my tyres are always in the shade so tend not to get UV damage, which I believe is the main cause of cracking. My car is parked on my drive which runs East to West with a hedge on the South side shading the n/s tyres and the car shades the o/s tyres. I think the longest I've had the same tyres on a car was 8 years, replaced due to wear, with no cracking.

 

[Lovemyev]

I'm lucky that my tyres are always in the shade so tend not to get UV damage, which I believe is the main cause of cracking. My car is parked on my drive which runs East to West with a hedge on the South side shading the n/s tyres and the car shades the o/s tyres. I think the longest I've had the same tyres on a car was 8 years, replaced due to wear, with no cracking.

Parking in strong sun light will increase the effects of side wall cracking, but it is not the sole cause of the problem.
I have used the same local family run tyre shop for about 25 years and I know the owner fairly well.
I ask him about the side wall cracking issue about 3 years ago.
He said that they see more tyres getting replaced for this issue now, than they did 20 years ago.
He said that silicone content in tyres has been changed a lot over the last 20 years and side wall cracking has become a more common event, as a result of these changes.
He made the comment that if you are a medium to high mileage user, then it has no ill effects on you really, as you will be replacing the tyres due to wear first anyway.
It’s the low mileage users that are getting caught out every single time.
He recommended rotating the wheel’s frequently.
He also said avoid using strong acid based alloy wheel cleaner and leaving it to dwell to long and warned against using certain types of solvent based tyre dressing on your tyres.
Use only water based, if you have to !.

 

[TheArcher]

I think it's more relevant if you drive spiritedly.
If you drive sedately like me it doesn't matter so much.

I disagree. Always expect the unexpected and be prepared! All-seasons tyres all round too.

 

[Roldorf]

I agree. Swapped my brand new Michelin tyres for all seasons as soon as I got the car. Original tyres are sitting in the cellar will sell them in the spring, they still have the pimples on the tread surface.

 

[Robf]

I agree. Swapped my brand new Michelin tyres for all seasons as soon as I got the car. Original tyres are sitting in the cellar will sell them in the spring, they still have the pimples on the tread surface.

Can you please let us know which all season tire you used?

 

[Kithmo]

I disagree. Always expect the unexpected and be prepared! All-seasons tyres all round too.

I don't expect tyres that are approved for road use to unexpectedly lose grip unless I'm doing something stupid like cornering too fast etc.
All season tyres are a compromise anyway, if you're going to expect the unexpected, why not fit winter tyres in Winter and Summer tyres in Summer just to make sure ?

 

[Roldorf]

I agree they are a compromise, until you get stuck on a slightly muddy field as I did 2 weeks ago. I have never had any problem with all seasons tyres, never been stuck and have used them on all my cars for the last 15 years.
They cost of swapping tyres (which we have to do in Germany) twice a year at 25 euro per tyre is a no brainer. The saving will pay for a brand new set of tyres every 4 years.
@robf:- I fitted Kenda 205/55 R16 94V Kenetica 4S KR 202 XL at 98 euro each plus fitting and balancing. From Reifen.com.
Not the cheapest but middle of the road price. I used to fit Hankook when they were an almost unknown brand, but in the last 15 years they have gained a name and are now as expensive as the other premium brands.

 

[Redoralive]

All tyres are a compromise. In Scotland we can have four seasons in one day. All seasons are sometimes the best option. Most important thing is know your cars limits and your own.

 

[BarryH]

So which is better All Seasons, Four Seasons or Crossclimate or are they just marketing names for the same kind of tyre?

 

[N2STY]

I think some countries require full winter?
I run goodyear vector 4 all season tyres on my wife's car there very good all year round but you would definitely lose range on a ev
If you run all season tyres definitely don't go for ones that only have M+S as any manufacturer can add that with out testing you really need the 3PMSF a picture of a mountain as they have to be tested
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@BarryH 3pmsf is very important

 

[Robf]

I agree they are a compromise, until you get stuck on a slightly muddy field as I did 2 weeks ago. I have never had any problem with all seasons tyres, never been stuck and have used them on all my cars for the last 15 years.
They cost of swapping tyres (which we have to do in Germany) twice a year at 25 euro per tyre is a no brainer. The saving will pay for a brand new set of tyres every 4 years.
@robf:- I fitted Kenda 205/55 R16 94V Kenetica 4S KR 202 XL at 98 euro each plus fitting and balancing. From Reifen.com.
Not the cheapest but middle of the road price. I used to fit Hankook when they were an almost unknown brand, but in the last 15 years they have gained a name and are now as expensive as the other premium brands.

Thanks for that Roldorf, the Hankook Kinergy 4S2 H750 comes out very well for all seasons in the UK, I just dont know if it is suitable for an EV.

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If I still lived in the Highlands (am now a dedicated Saft Southerner), I would absolutely fit all season tyres. They really come into their own in temps below 6c and are far better in snow..... Ideal for the Highland summer

 

[Redoralive]

I used GY vectors on previous car. Definitely suitable for anything the UK winter has to offer.

Michelin CrossClimates are very good, less snow biased then the Vectors but still very capable.

Not sure how they affect efficiency on EVs. One of the reasons I went for winter tyres. Economy is poop right now. Was reading -11°C at one point this morning. I'll swap the tyres around in spring.

 

[BarryH]

I used GY vectors on previous car. Definitely suitable for anything the UK winter has to offer.

Michelin CrossClimates are very good, less snow biased then the Vectors but still very capable.

Not sure how they affect efficiency on EVs. One of the reasons I went for winter tyres. Economy is poop right now. Was reading -11°C at one point this morning. I'll swap the tyres around in spring.

I guess where you live you're going to get the economy hit whatever you do but Winter tyres are definitely the right choice with average temperatures a lot lower than the SE of England where I live.
I have never actually fitted Winter tires, but about 10 years when I was commuting 200 miles a day in a Renault Grand Scenic we had quite a long period of prolonged snowy weather and lots of untreated roads on my route. I had fortunately fitted UniRoyal RainX tires a few weeks before the big snow and they performed fantastically on snow and ice as I wove around many abandoned cars and vans on my commute. I don't think they were snow or 3PMSF rated but Uniroyals had always been very surefooted in the wet on other cars I'd owned so I bought them again when my tires need replacing without a second thought.

Mike Proctor, formally of this parish - until he bought a KIA Soul, used to contribute lots of winter tire advice on this Forum.