Will the order price be held if delivery is delayed?

[Les burrows]

Dont forget that in order for the contract to be 'binding' the contract needs to be signed by both parties. Verbal means nothing.

I think it does if deposits have been paid and an order placed.
Les

 

[Les burrows]

How much is the price increase does anybody know ?

No but one has been rumoured in the motoring press as a possibility.
Les

 

[Deleted member 9909]

To go back to Harry 17 analogy, which is correct, assuming the loaf is delivered in 7 days as promised.

My argument (clumsily put) is if anyone was promised 6 - 8 weeks (verbal probably) and then 8 - 12 weeks and the price increase kicks in at week 9 or 10 wouldn't you be miffed even though its contractually correct....just saying...my car is probably still in an Australian iron ore mine at the moment even though order was placed the 1st week in September ?

To be honest I am chilled about it...it will arrive when it arrives and so be it...and more chance of the early niggles being ironed out (but not in Australia)

Alan

 

[Goldie007]

Before ordering the MG4 we went to look at a Range Rover and they pointed out that the prices would go up and the customer would have to pay it. No option to cancel order. More a 'Tuff you have to pay' attitude from the dealer. One reason why we ordered the MG4. We have a got the dealer to agree that we have the option to get out of the order if a couple of conditions don't work for us.

 

[Ian Key]

I accept that the price may go up and that I may have to pay more but just to add to the discussion it says on the invoice the price will be being based on the price current at the time of delivery.

I then placed my order and nothing is mentioned on the New Vehicle Order form about the price altering only that my part exchange will be revalued, which the salesman made sure I understood due to the long lead time.

 

[tsedge]

In practice most dealers will not charge you more if the RRP increases after you order but they can do so if they choose to. They won’t normally because it will lead to an unhappy or ex-customer.

If the price changes you can cancel the order. They can’t force you to buy it.

 

[lfc958]

Nope - just more difficult to prove, not impossible.

Wasn't me, cant prove a thing ( eat my shorts )

 

[siteguru]

Wasn't me, cant prove a thing ( eat my shorts )

But I recorded the contractual conversation on my phone
But this person here witnessed the contractual conversation
Etc.

 

[Simler51]

Well, I placed my order in August and would expect, whenever it arrives, the price agreed at that time to be honoured. If that proves not to be the case, then I refuse the car and demand my deposit back.
Should I expected to pay any more than agreed, after waiting so long for a delivery, I'm more than happy to keep using petrol.

I have a question - not sure if it belongs in this thread but here goes.
Ordered MG4 SE from dealer at beginning of November- part exchanging 2013 Yaris Hybrid as part of deal. Full service history- MOT (runs out mid Jan 2023). Dealer happy with all info and noted Mot expiry date, saying should not be a problem as delivery estimate first week Dec. So thought wow with all the delivery delays I might as well go for it. Signed the deal papers which includes PX info and waited and waited… Dealer then informed me car is in country and new delivery estimate is 16th Dec. So my question is if my car is not ready to pick up before old car Mot expires - do I have get a new mot plus the extra expenses if it fails. Is the px agreement binding and he has to take it - if not do i cancel? Sorry more than one question!

 

[StackH]

If you still own the Yaris when the MOT is due then it's your responsibility. If you have a really nice dealer they may offer something towards it, but it's unlikely.

I'm in the same boat - my current car is 4 years old on 19th Jan so will need a service and MOT, and I was hoping to have got rid of it before then (I'm still waiting for my MG4 to turn up). However, my dealer wasn't interested in offering anything close to a reasonable PX deal so I'll be selling it myself. If you got a decent PX I would probably be tempted to swallow the cost of the MOT rather than give the dealer the opportunity to "re-evaluate" the PX price.

 

[Sloucher]

I have a question - not sure if it belongs in this thread but here goes.
Ordered MG4 SE from dealer at beginning of November- part exchanging 2013 Yaris Hybrid as part of deal. Full service history- MOT (runs out mid Jan 2023). Dealer happy with all info and noted Mot expiry date, saying should not be a problem as delivery estimate first week Dec. So thought wow with all the delivery delays I might as well go for it. Signed the deal papers which includes PX info and waited and waited… Dealer then informed me car is in country and new delivery estimate is 16th Dec. So my question is if my car is not ready to pick up before old car Mot expires - do I have get a new mot plus the extra expenses if it fails. Is the px agreement binding and he has to take it - if not do i cancel? Sorry more than one question!

I've got no legal expertise so my opinion is totally based on what I would consider to be fair. It is that yes, you'd have to get the car MOT'd and bear the expense, because the part ex was originally agreed on a car that had a current MOT. I would imagine that, unless you have it in writing, the agreed part ex price was based on the value of your car at that moment in time.
If you had an accident in it in the interim, I'm sure that would affect its value and hence the dealers part ex offer.
As I say, my opinion only, perhaps someone else has better knowledge on this subject?

 

[Goldie007]

In practice most dealers will not charge you more if the RRP increases after you order but they can do so if they choose to. They won’t normally because it will lead to an unhappy or ex-customer.

If the price changes you can cancel the order. They can’t force you to buy it.

We originally was going for a Range Rover Evoque and was about to sign for it until they mentioned a 12 month lead time and when the price went up it would be that price I would have to pay. They do not honour the price so might be the same for all dealers. They had a customer who ordered a car and the price had gone up by 8k and they had to pay it.
We promptly walked out of the dealer stating its not what we wanted.

 

[Sloucher]

If you still own the Yaris when the MOT is due then it's your responsibility. If you have a really nice dealer they may offer something towards it, but it's unlikely.

I'm in the same boat - my current car is 4 years old on 19th Jan so will need a service and MOT, and I was hoping to have got rid of it before then (I'm still waiting for my MG4 to turn up). However, my dealer wasn't interested in offering anything close to a reasonable PX deal so I'll be selling it myself. If you got a decent PX I would probably be tempted to swallow the cost of the MOT rather than give the dealer the opportunity to "re-evaluate" the PX price.

@StackH - beat me to it. I sold my car eventually through Motorway as the agreed price from them was higher than the dealer part ex offer.
However, in my case, the garage that won the bid for my car did a thorough inspection when they came to collect it and found the windscreen delaminating (I hadn't noticed), and revised the amount they would pay for the car. After a deal of haggling, I still managed to get the same figure as the MG dealer was offering for (as they thought) an undamaged car.

 

[Cocijo]

Sorry Alan, I do not agree with your statement re: Morals.

I would argue, that should a dealership be supplied a car for sale after the initial RRP, yet by the time the car was available for sale, the wholesale price had gone up, then I believe it would be morally wrong to insist that the seller covers all the increased charges that the wholesaler has bestowed upon the buying chain.

Why is it ok for a dealership to suck up a manufactures increase in costs, for them not to pass that on to the customer?

If I ordered a loaf of bread from my local bakery for a seven day delivery, and should there be a percentage increase in this loaf of bread in the meantime, I would expect to pay the increase, or go without bread.

the dealership orders the car for their customer they get an agreed price from the manufacturer.

Sorry Alan, I do not agree with your statement re: Morals.

I would argue, that should a dealership be supplied a car for sale after the initial RRP, yet by the time the car was available for sale, the wholesale price had gone up, then I believe it would be morally wrong to insist that the seller covers all the increased charges that the wholesaler has bestowed upon the buying chain.

Why is it ok for a dealership to suck up a manufactures increase in costs, for them not to pass that on to the customer?

If I ordered a loaf of bread from my local bakery for a seven day delivery, and should there be a percentage increase in this loaf of bread in the meantime, I would expect to pay the increase, or go without bread.

When the dealership orders a car on behalf of the customer they get an agreed price that is linked to their quota.

 

[Simler51]

I've got no legal expertise so my opinion is totally based on what I would consider to be fair. It is that yes, you'd have to get the car MOT'd and bear the expense, because the part ex was originally agreed on a car that had a current MOT. I would imagine that, unless you have it in writing, the agreed part ex price was based on the value of your car at that moment in time.
If you had an accident in it in the interim, I'm sure that would affect its value and hence the dealers part ex offer.
As I say, my opinion only, perhaps someone else has better knowledge on this subject?

I suppose that will also apply to getting a service done as well.

 

[Buster72]

I'm the same. Placed my order end of September with a £500 deposit

Exactly that.
Once you have placed the order with the dealer and paid the deposit and signed the purchase order, you have a legally binding contract with the dealer at those specific conditions.