Yoke steering wheel

After searching for long, i have found a supplier too for a red yoke steering wheel. Same thing : electronics need to ben transferred. I'll ask my local MG dealer if they would do it, if not I'll just do it myself, it's not rocket science ...
 
Bzguy said:
After searching for long, i have found a supplier too for a red yoke steering wheel. Same thing : electronics need to ben transferred. I'll ask my local MG dealer if they would do it, if not I'll just do it myself, it's not rocket science ...
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Good detective work, I know it's not easy.
I wish you the best of luck and look forward to seeing the photos. 🫣
 

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Looks really good, and the fact that you can fully see all the screens now is definitely a big plus!

How does it affect the handling? I get it's harder to control that with the factory wheel but how much harder? I'm particularly worried about high speed cornering and losing my grip on the yoke.

I've never driven a vehicle with anything that looks even remotely similar to a yoke. In fact I haven't even driven a Cyberster yet, but that will change next week when I'll have mine.
 
NikLiverpool said:
How would this impact warranty and insurance?
Would love to have the yoke for my IM6 as it is in China :P
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As the car doesn't have progressive steer by wire, whereby you are at full lock at not much more than 100 degrees or so of wheel turn, (which is the only really safe way to have a yoke) you may well be in trouble with your insurance and liability in the event of an accident if it happens during any sort of steering manoeuvre.

These yokes really do look great, but the reality is they're dangerous to use on a car with a conventional, none progressive steering system, especially much so on UK style roundabouts.

The above reasons are why the yoke never got beyond the prototype for western markets and I'm very surprised any MG dealers in Europe or the UK are agreeing to fit these at all, as it's opening them up to a potential very significant liability issue.
 
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Paulie68 said:
These yolks really do look great, but the reality is they're dangerous to use on a car with a conventional, none progressive steering system, especially much so on UK style roundabouts.

The above reasons are why the yolk never got beyond the prototype for western markets and I'm very surprised any MG dealers in Europe or the UK are agreeing to fit these at all, as it's opening them up to a potential very significant liability issue.
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Yeah when i test drove the Cyberster the turning at sharp 90 degrees was a bit unerving as i expected the car to adjust being at 5mph. To reduce the need for more rotation.

The wheel works well if most of your driving is on the motorway and using cruise control or adaptive cruise control. Ie as soon as youve entered via the slip road and done the whole taking off and merge youre straight into adaptive cruise or autopilot. Then youre taking over for the exit onto the ramp. The feature you mention would be required. Maybe the Tesla has this thats why yoke works well?!

90 degrees should be the adjusted limit with a Yoke fitted. Anything more it becomes a bit iffy turning especially with no thumb grip above where the buttons are.
 
salty said:
If they got you to sign a Waver. Saying for Show purposes only. Would that not cover, them?
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Not sure, it would be pretty cynical to do so, really knowing the customer is using the car normally. Generally people are driving their car to shows too, not taking them on a trailer!

Don't mean to be a killjoy here, I'm all about people doing as they like, except when it comes to putting others lives at risk. This yoke is just a danger, even for a yoke, the MG design is particularly unsafe to use. When someone gets into a situation where split second action is needed and they have to fumble about awkwardly turning rapidly and trying to find something to keep hold of on that thing... It's a disaster!

Toyota has a far better design with far more to grip on to when in use (although theirs is also only available on proper progressive steering systems) Doesn't look "as cool" though.

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GranTurismoEra said:
Yeah when i test drove the Cyberster the turning at sharp 90 degrees was a bit unerving as i expected the car to adjust being at 5mph. To reduce the need for more rotation.

The wheel works well if most of your driving is on the motorway and using cruise control or adaptive cruise control. Ie as soon as youve entered via the slip road and done the whole taking off and merge youre straight into adaptive cruise or autopilot. Then youre taking over for the exit onto the ramp. The feature you mention would be required. Maybe the Tesla has this thats why yoke works well?!

90 degrees should be the adjusted limit with a Yoke fitted. Anything more it becomes a bit iffy turning especially with no thumb grip above where the buttons are.
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Tesla doesn't have progressive steering either on any UK models (Cybertruck does have it) and their yoke doesn't work at all well in use on the cars.

They've barely promoted that option in the UK, was one of Musk's pet ideas, along with indicator buttons on the wheel itself, rather than a stalk, another crappy solution that is hard to use during turning! (They've since, reluctantly returned to a stalk due to overwhelming hatred of the button decision!)
 
There are many bears on the road in the comments here.
Tomorrow, the guys from MG are going to install my steering wheel; they're all very enthusiastic, even a member of MG Europe thinks it's fantastic. I haven't heard anyone mention insurance or anything like that. Dutch law doesn't mention anything about it either. There's a lot in the law, but the only thing that comes into play is a rule that states you shouldn't apply more than a specified amount of force to your steering wheel to make it steer properly. So, your steering wheel shouldn't be too small, requiring you to apply more force to turn.
We're all going to experience it firsthand. Pictures will follow tomorrow 🥳 🫡
 
While progressive steering would be better, yokes are legal in the UK (as are tillers!). Obviously the insurance company needs to be notified (as a modification) but it is up to them to assess if it increases risk.

I think the dangers are overstated, the main awkwardness is when doing tight turns at low speed, which is when risks are lower.

We are pretty good at adapting to things - Tesla's lack of stalks was widely derided as silly and dangerous but I have seen no evidence they increase accidents (even though I am not a fan).

Hope you enjoy your yoke.
 
tsedge said:
While progressive steering would be better, yokes are legal in the UK (as are tillers!). Obviously the insurance company needs to be notified (as a modification) but it is up to them to assess if it increases risk.

I think the dangers are overstated, the main awkwardness is when doing tight turns at low speed, which is when risks are lower.

We are pretty good at adapting to things - Tesla's lack of stalks was widely derided as silly and dangerous but I have seen no evidence they increase accidents (even though I am not a fan).

Hope you enjoy your yoke.
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The dangers are not overstated at all. I decided to drive my MG5 without using the top half of the wheel yesterday for a total of 9 miles on an errand, to simulate yoke driving. I wanted to prove to myself one way or another, in case I was being over negative about it. The way you have to steer is absolutely compromised and giving way less control than with a full wheel. Even ordinary junctions are uncomfortable and I only tried turning 3rd exit on one roundabout as it was just to dangerous to repeat. It's absolutely batshit crazy driving around a car with conventional multi turn steering system, lock to lock, with one of these. It's just asking for an incident.

As I've said, they look great, and clear the screen view, but I'll definitely not be getting one when I get my Cyberster and prey I never end up on a roundabout in close proximity to any of you lot who do have one!

They may well be legal to use, but they shouldn't be on conventional, none progressive, steering systems.
 
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