Yoke steering wheel

[tsedge]

We'll agree to disagree then!

 

[Jackolino]

I learned at driving school that it's best to hold the steering wheel at the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock positions. But there's nothing there on a Yoke steering wheel! The 9 o'clock/3 o'clock position would be an alternative, but there's the spoke and I can't get a proper grip there either. I definitely see that as a problem and share the doubts of the previous speakers. I will definitely not be buying a steering wheel like this.


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[Paulie68]

We'll agree to disagree then!

Indeed! I do wish they had implemented progressive steering as I'd actually have loved to have one.

 

[4Rens]

Long story short: We did it!!!
But don't ask how . A huge job that took over two hours.
Happy with the result, and it works perfectly. The only problem is that I no longer have heated steering wheels

 

[salty]

Like it!

 

[MG Clive]

Super job @4Rens, very nice.

 

[CybersterWatcher]

Wow!

Looking forward to the updates over the next month of how it drives

 

[GranTurismoEra]

 

[salty]

He didn't seem to have much, trouble with it. No doubt like owt new/different, you'd get use to it.

 

[GranTurismoEra]

Ill get one but i doubt itll be on very long lol. Great for cool points

 

[salty]

Ill get one but i doubt itll be on very long lol. Great for cool points

Why not on long?

 

[4Rens]

Wow!

Looking forward to the updates over the next month of how it drives

I've ridden it quite a bit now, and the steering is definitely different, especially in slow, sharp turns.
But as with many things, you get used to it.
The exaggerated steering shown in the YouTube video isn't really necessary.
I'm still searching for my turn signal; it feels further from the handlebars and isn't always within easy reach. But as my wise old aunt always said: "You get used to everything, even a guy." (Dutch proverb)

 

[GranTurismoEra]

Why not on long?

Its definitely not as efficient and as comfortable as a proper steering wheel. I mean what could go wrong if a situation is misjudged and theres a need to quickly counter steer while the wheel is a certain angle

 

[Anon70]

You could go full F1 and put every setting under the sun on the wheel. Maybe with a yoke wheel adjusting the lock to lock ratio would help so there is less mechanical effort required to fully turn the wheels

 

[tsedge]

Its definitely not as efficient and as comfortable as a proper steering wheel. I mean what could go wrong if a situation is misjudged and theres a need to quickly counter steer while the wheel is a certain angle

These arguments are all about familiarity. With practice, a yoke can be every bit as good as a normal wheel. Not the same: it is better for some things and worse for others, but every bit as effective as a way of steering a vehicle.

The amount of counter steering needed at speed is small and if not at speed, the risks are low.

Yes, early on a yoke is going to feel very strange and awkward, but there is nothing inherently safe about great big wheel that requires a lot of hand movement to turn significantly.

The main issue will be having a yoke and still driving normal cars: switching between the two will be difficult and that's a fair argument. But if someone has only a yoke and practices with it, I do not think there are any safety issues.

 

[Linmad]

I think it looks amazing and that is the way the car is designed for the screens.... I will ask my dealer if they could do it.

 

[Paulie68]

These arguments are all about familiarity. With practice, a yoke can be every bit as good as a normal wheel. Not the same: it is better for some things and worse for others, but every bit as effective as a way of steering a vehicle.

The amount of counter steering needed at speed is small and if not at speed, the risks are low.

Yes, early on a yoke is going to feel very strange and awkward, but there is nothing inherently safe about great big wheel that requires a lot of hand movement to turn significantly.

The main issue will be having a yoke and still driving normal cars: switching between the two will be difficult and that's a fair argument. But if someone has only a yoke and practices with it, I do not think there are any safety issues.

Sorry, but this is demonstrably false. You can practice and get "used to it" as much as you like, but a yoke on a non progressive steering system, requiring multi-turns lock to lock is harder to use safely, especially in emergency manoeuvre situations. This is a fact, full stop!

Yes, they look great. Yes, you can see the screens way better with one, but please stop pretending they're as easy or safe to use as a regular wheel, those who now have them and have been using them a little time will know this very well. I expect some will soon admit to this if being honest.

PS. There is a way to make them at least as safe to use as an ordinary wheel, for one armed people at least, by fitting a knob to the front of the rim, as used by one armed people now. I somehow suspect this might lessen their appeal though!

 

[Paulie68]

Its definitely not as efficient and as comfortable as a proper steering wheel. I mean what could go wrong if a situation is misjudged and there's a need to quickly counter steer while the wheel is a certain angle

This can not be understated, even more so on a very high powered car. People want these for cosmetic effect, but that is the only benefit. They're under the radar due to such low numbers in use, but in the event of wider uptake of yokes on none progressive steering cars, they'd end up getting banned in western countries on safety grounds as the accident rate numbers would be way higher than the norm.

I fully expect a user here to come back to us ruing the day they fitted one at some future point after experiencing an emergency situation where the yoke seriously compromised their safety. (As a previous Tesla driver who used to hang around US Tesla forums, I've already seen it!)

 

[MG Clive]

Yes you're right @Paulie68, it's taken 100 years to perfect the round steering wheel, OK the MG one is slightly octagonal, and Austin experimented with a square one on the Allegro in the 70s, but the years have proved that circular is better, easier, and safer.

 

[Paulie68]

Yes you're right @Paulie68, it's taken 100 years to perfect the round steering wheel, OK the MG one is slightly octagonal, and Austin experimented with a square one on the Allegro in the 70s, but the years have proved that circular is better, easier, and safer.

Even the squarer versions that were tried still offered something to hold on to, the yoke is effectively barely the bottom half of wheel.