Yucky Yuk Yuk

[Cabansail]

Yesterday, on a short trip, I moved into a filter lane to turn right into a shopping centre. There was one car already stopped at the lights. Took my foot off the power to slow down behind it, but it did not slow much and I had to use the brake. I usually time it so it just comes to a halt. Once stopped I took my foot off the brake to wait. The bloody car moved forward and I had to brake again. This then happened again. I then hit the Park Brake to hold. A while later the green arrow came on and the car in front moved away, I tried to but would not move. Byu the time I had pressed the brake to disengage the park brake the arrow was again going red.

Yes I forgot to select OPD before leaving and the car was in that bloody horrible default mode of pseudo automatic. Yuk Yuk Yukkity Yuk.

 

[MG Clive]

When you're in non-opd mode, once you've stopped at a junction, if you then press hard on the brake pedal it will engage the auto hold, then just press the accelerator pedal to disengage it when you want to drive off.

 

[Cabansail]

I will try NOT to be in non-OPD again.

 

[siteguru]

And yet I prefer non-OPD mode.

(Not that I have a choice on my MY22 car anyway, but I prefer the 4 mph creep on "idle". If I want to come to a complete stop I just press the brake and then press a bit harder for auto-hold. Press the accelerator or press brake again to release auto-hold).

And in future - pull up the P lever to apply the handbrake; that keeps the car in Drive mode. Pressing the P button puts it into Park mode and so knocks it out of D. You can still then just press the accelerator to release the handbrake.

 

[T1 Terry]

I like the acc mode that stops behind the car in front, just have to remember to use the accelerator to move off as soon as the lights change or te car sits there for a while before moving off and gets the car behind you really peeved .... just have to remember not to touch the brake and be prepared for the car in front to suddenly decide it needed to be in another lane .... the MG sees nothing in front takes off like a startled cat back to what ever the cruise control was set at ..... not a good look to be tearing off between two lines of stationary traffic at 60km/h ..... and frightens the crap out of the car stopped at the lights to see you coming at them at 60km/h

T1 Terry

 

[ClaretFozzy]

I turned off OPD in my 2025 XPOWER on the first day and it’s been off ever since (and my car actually saves the option if you turn it on)

 

[dsimpkins]

When you're in non-opd mode, once you've stopped at a junction, if you then press hard on the brake pedal it will engage the auto hold, then just press the accelerator pedal to disengage it when you want to drive off.

Autohold is not on by default. You have to switch it on. It remains on once switched on. At least that was the case in my car.

 

[EvTek23]

When you're in non-opd mode, once you've stopped at a junction, if you then press hard on the brake pedal it will engage the auto hold, then just press the accelerator pedal to disengage it when you want to drive off.

Like @siteguru I don't have OPD so I'm used to the regen slowing the car, and then just applying the brakes to bring the car to a halt. I would say that if you press the brake pedal again after applying the auto hold function it will have the same effect as the accelerator in that it releases auto hold and the car will creep. So although a great feature you have to keep your feet clear of the pedals, or hover over them without touching them when stopped.

 

[T1 Terry]

Like @siteguru I don't have OPD so I'm used to the regen slowing the car, and then just applying the brakes to bring the car to a halt. I would say that if you press the brake pedal again after applying the auto hold function it will have the same effect as the accelerator in that it releases auto hold and the car will creep. So although a great feature you have to keep your feet clear of the pedals, or hover over them without touching them when stopped.

And nerves of steel if still on one bar detection distance

T1 Terry

 

[EvTek23]

Yep you have to be aware, full attention to the road, and not a time for trying to reach something on the back seat while you're stationary and waiting in a queue!

 

[T1 Terry]

Yep you have to be aware, full attention to the road, and not a time for trying to reach something on the back seat while you're stationary and waiting in a queue!

Or texting, but at least it's better when stopped than when driving, still so many fools doing this ......

T1 Terry

 

[Cabansail]

"I turned off OPD in my 2025 XPOWER on the first day and it’s been off ever since (and my car actually saves the option if you turn it on)"

How do you turn OPD on as default? Mine defaults OFF, hence this thread.

 

[Cabansail]

And yet I prefer non-OPD mode.

(Not that I have a choice on my MY22 car anyway, but I prefer the 4 mph creep on "idle". If I want to come to a complete stop I just press the brake and then press a bit harder for auto-hold. Press the accelerator or press brake again to release auto-hold).

And in future - pull up the P lever to apply the handbrake; that keeps the car in Drive mode. Pressing the P button puts it into Park mode and so knocks it out of D. You can still then just press the accelerator to release the handbrake.

Have you owned and driven Automatic cars in the past?

In my case I have never owned a car with an Automatic and when I have had to drive them I have not enjoyed the experience. The XPower is the first car that I have owned that has Letters, when given a hire car with letters they looked at me in a strange way when I asked what they meant. If I were to assign letters it would be L, F & R for Lock Forward and Reverse.

I have got used to my left foot not having a function now and the EV not having any variable gearing means that there is not that sensation of the power train changing without input.

The creep is programmed into an EV and must be there to emulate the design fault in Auto boxes. In OPD mine still creeps like that in Reverse and I have not seen any way to turn that off.

 

[T1 Terry]

Have you owned and driven Automatic cars in the past?

In my case I have never owned a car with an Automatic and when I have had to drive them I have not enjoyed the experience. The XPower is the first car that I have owned that has Letters, when given a hire car with letters they looked at me in a strange way when I asked what they meant. If I were to assign letters it would be L, F & R for Lock Forward and Reverse.

I have got used to my left foot not having a function now and the EV not having any variable gearing means that there is not that sensation of the power train changing without input.

The creep is programmed into an EV and must be there to emulate the design fault in Auto boxes. In OPD mine still creeps like that in Reverse and I have not seen any way to turn that off.

Reminds me of a radio station prank call to the local BMW dealer when I was back in the Illawarra ...... using an accent voice not really any race in particular ....

Caller: This car is rubbish

Service dept lady: Can you tell me what the problem is please

Caller: If I knew that, I wouldn't be calling you would I?

Service dept, still trying to remain pleasant: Can you explain why you think your BMW is rubbish please

Caller: When I drive during the day, the car is good, at night, nothing, rubbish car

Service dept: Can you explain what happens when you drive at night

Caller: Nothing, I already told you that, were you not listening ......

Service dept: Can you tell me each action you perform so you are ready to drive at night ......

Caller: I press the button on the black thing and the car lights flash to tell me where I parked ..... that part is good ..... I open the door and sit in the car, I turn the sound system on ..... that part is also good ...... boom boom boom ... I love the sound system ..... I put my seatbelt on, I press the start button and the engine makes a great sound that I can even hear over the sound system, that part is good ..... I turn the lights on so I can see which way to go, that part is good, I pull the lever to D for Day, and the car moves forward, that part is good, I have said this before ...... but then I move the lever to N for Night ...... I can hear the engine is making noise louder than the sound system, so that part is good, but the car goes no where ..... this part is rubbish ....

Service dept: By this time the young lady has lost the plot, you can almost hear the tears she is laughing so much .....

Caller: I glad you think this is funny ..... don't even start me on R for Race ......

T1 Terry

 

[siteguru]

Have you owned and driven Automatic cars in the past?

Owned? No
Driven? Yes .. both torque converter and CVT boxes. The MG4 without OPD is more akin to a torque converter box in the way it creeps.

 

[Cabansail]

Reminds me of the old saying.

No matter how useless and demeaning you think your job is, remember there people in Germany who fit indicators to BMW's as a job.

 

[decrep]

Cabansail,

I think yours is a fairly unique problem. But even in a manual, a lot of the time you need your foot on the brake while stopped at the lights, to stop it rolling.

When I first drove an auto, (a long time ago) it didn't seem that strange to have to keep my foot on the brake.

The Chinese now consider OPD to be dangerous, as too many learners don't get braking reflexes.
So your chance of getting OPD as default are rather low.

What about when you charge to 100%, you need to be able to cope with that without it being a huge problem.
After the car's service when they said they'd toned down LKA I drove for a while without changing anything. Didn't cause any problems, but took a little adjusting, even though the other car is an auto.
So I understand where you're coming from.

All I can suggest is to take a little pain, in the interest of adjusting, and leave OPD off for a little while until you get used to having to brake when coming to a stop and holding it there.
It's only headology that makes it seem like a big deal, changing your mindset will make driving much more pleasant.

 

[T1 Terry]

There are only two pedals, fortunately I still have two feet, so it's not a real problem for me, the drive cuts out as soon as the pedal if depressed past a certain point, you can see where that is on the power meter ... our 51 maintains 3%, I'm guessing as an anti roll back assist

T1 Terry

 

[Brettus]

I’m a big OPD fan, wish it was default but I have to put up with the rest of the stuff not being what I would prefer so what’s one more setting. It’s definitely a nicer driving experience though and when I have charged too much for it to engage I miss it until I get to whatever percentage the season requires for me to re-enable it but I do as soon as I’m able.

I just have to be extra aware when it’s not on because as you say, it’s kinda different muscle memory. Not coming to a complete stop and creeping seems more of a nostalgia or throwback catering to “this is how we’ve always done it” rather than rethinking how it could be done now if people want to. Glad it’s an option anyway and one I’ll always enable when I can as I find it just more pleasant. I still hit the brakes when coming in too hot but it’s the exception rather than the rule.

 

[Cabansail]

Cabansail,

I think yours is a fairly unique problem. But even in a manual, a lot of the time you need your foot on the brake while stopped at the lights, to stop it rolling.

If I were to be stationary for more than a few seconds, or if I was on a slope I would use the handbrake (cable and lever type) to hold the car.

What about when you charge to 100%, you need to be able to cope with that without it being a huge problem.

I rarely charge to 100%, think I have only done that twice, and I switched back to OPD a few km down the road. I can cope with it but this time it caught me unaware as I distracted.

Still think the XPower is a great little car but, like all cars, there are some things which could be better. I have kept my first Mazda 3 Diesel as a spare car. It is not worth selling and is still very good for an '07 model. Nice to use the 6 speed box occasionally.