What goes from 0-62 in 4 seconds

[Cocijo]

I’ve driven the 550bhp BMW electric thing.
Very addictive, really fast for a car.
Although they all pale into insignificance compared to a 1000cc bike.
The speeds they can reach in very little distance is truly phenomenal.

Yes I’m a biker also and have had my fair share of amazing sports machines over the years - currently ending up with a BMW R1250GS - on the exit route from motorcycling…

 

[Deleted member 10041]

I see the new Smart #1 Brabus price has been released £43450 0-60 3.9 secs. Not the best looking from the outside but a quality looking cabin.

I think MG will have to undercut that with the 4 ( I think they will anyway) as the cabin materials etc is not at that level.

 

[Rolfe]

That's hideous.

 

[domsim]

Apologies if someone has mentioned this already, but from the videos from the Shanghai show it appears that the performance mg4 has a rear wiper.

Interesting that they’ve chosen to add one to that model, but not the se or trophy.

 

[ARealHuman]

Yes I’m a biker also and have had my fair share of amazing sports machines over the years - currently ending up with a BMW R1250GS - on the exit route from motorcycling…

Same here, last bike was a R1200GS! Awesome bikes, rode mine lots, had it at the same time as a ZZR1400 PS, and rode the beemer much more. All day comfortable. Due to lockdown and not riding, I lost the urge and traded it in against my ZS! I still have most of my kit (sold my dirt bike stuff though) so who knows, but I fell out of love with bikes generally, no more BSB/WSB/MotoGP (although the latter has been turning into a bit of a snoozefest over recent years IMHO).

Anyway, I digress, sorry.....

 

[Deleted member 10041]

That's hideous.

As I said not the best looking (was trying to be kind!) Merely a reference to an EV price point with comparable performance

 

[Rolfe]

Why do they do it, though? How many drivers with that sort of money are going to be attracted to something that looks like a punk Mini?

OK, not zero, I had a colleague who bought something remarkably similar to treat her mid-life crisis, but honestly.

 

[Robf]

I do remember similar comments when the first Ford Sierra came out, hidious, jelly mould etc, but it did set much of the basis of present day car perception and design. But that car is ugly! (but the Japanese will love it, for some reason they just love the little boxes).
Anyways.. I was thinking about changing my 30kw Leaf, but given all the clamour around sodium batteries, think that I might just wait for a little while (same goes for getting a house battery), I feel the wind of change.......

 

[Rolfe]

That's your luxury! I was sitting with an insurance write-off which, even if I had repaired the bodywork damage, clearly didn't have a lot of life left. Fortunately it lasted until the MG4 was available!

 

[Robf]

That's your luxury! I was sitting with an insurance write-off which, even if I had repaired the bodywork damage, clearly didn't have a lot of life left. Fortunately it lasted until the MG4 was available!

That must be a huge jump for you from a golf to a mg4. I first dipped my toe in the electric car world with a Zoe with rented battery about 5 years ago, and driving it just brought a smile to my face (luxury of a deisel as well just in case), then swapped for a Leaf, then sold the Deisel for the MG once the ranges increased and I felt secure. Work for us dictates 2 cars, now both electric. I wouldnt go back to ICE

 

[Rolfe]

It wasn't that big a jump, because the Golf was a GTi with a DSG. The DSG gives a fairly similar drive to the EV setup. The MG4 isn't quite as quick off the mark for overtaking as the GTi was, but it doesn't have the hesitation/lag at the beginning of the acceleration so there probably isn't much to choose. I'm currently revelling in the smooth ride and the incredible road-holding. And the quietness.

I'm just getting to grips with the whole charging business. In particular whether I should bother charging overnight if I'm only down to say 80%, and not anticipating using the car much the next day. I think the answer is coming out at yes. Last week I had to rescue a friend who had had a catastrophic puncture, and go fetch the other friend she was supposed to be meeting, and then ferry the punctured one back to her car to meet the RAC guy. All totally unexpected. I was fine for charge, but if I'd begun the day at 100% I'd have had more leeway. We live and learn. (At least mine is an SR, so it likes being kept at 100%.)

 

[bowfer]

That's hideous.

I’d say it’s very similar to the MG4, in that it looks good at the front but has a horrible back end.

It wasn't that big a jump, because the Golf was a GTi with a DSG. The DSG gives a fairly similar drive to the EV setup. The MG4 isn't quite as quick off the mark for overtaking as the GTi was, but it doesn't have the hesitation/lag at the beginning of the acceleration so there probably isn't much to choose. I'm currently revelling in the smooth ride and the incredible road-holding. And the quietness.

I'm just getting to grips with the whole charging business. In particular whether I should bother charging overnight if I'm only down to say 80%, and not anticipating using the car much the next day. I think the answer is coming out at yes. Last week I had to rescue a friend who had had a catastrophic puncture, and go fetch the other friend she was supposed to be meeting, and then ferry the punctured one back to her car to meet the RAC guy. All totally unexpected. I was fine for charge, but if I'd begun the day at 100% I'd have had more leeway. We live and learn. (At least mine is an SR, so it likes being kept at 100%.)

I’ve had three DSG cars, I don’t know how you can think they drive similarly…
The only similarity is they have two pedals.
An EV accelerates completely seamlessly, only the very best auto gearboxes can come close to replicating that.
DSG certainly doesn’t, even in D mode you’re very aware of up and down gearchanges.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Article about the AWD in yesterday's sun.

Called it the MG 4X power and stated it was going to be £38k they said it would be at Goodwood in July

 

[Eber]

Article about the AWD in yesterday's sun.

Called it the MG 4X power and stated it was going to be £38k they said it would be at Goodwood in July

That would be attractive pricing.

 

[PristDean]

Article about the AWD in yesterday's sun.

Called it the MG 4X power and stated it was going to be £38k they said it would be at Goodwood in July

Interesting...Is that the on the road price ?

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Copied and paste a bit direct from the article, also has a bit about the Cyberster


"It’ll catapult from 0-62mph in less than four seconds and has a trick e-diff for darting around considerable corners at substantial speeds.

I’m also told it has the same beefy brakes as a BMW X5. It needs them.

This “sleeper car” is the first of a new breed of hyper-hot hatches and is expected to cost around £38k."

Cyberster bit

Pigounakis said: “I think we have a winner on our hands.

“I look at this car and, in terms of technology, it is going to be right up there at the top of the pile. In terms of aesthetics, it’s a great-looking car. We’re quite comfortable with that £50k-£60k bracket.

"It will be the first all-electric sports car in the market and we know the next one is probably going to be six figures.

 

[bowfer]

Who in their right mind is going to drop £55k-£60k on an MG….?
if you’re spending that dough you want kudos, image, history.
Mental.

 

[CarlMG4]

Who in their right mind is going to drop £55k-£60k on an MG….?
if you’re spending that dough you want kudos, image, history.
Mental.

So like.. £45-55k for the equivalent petrol engined BMW roadster, the Z4? What kind of image would you get with one of those? Genuinely curious.

 

[bowfer]

So like.. £45-55k for the equivalent petrol engined BMW roadster, the Z4? What kind of image would you get with one of those? Genuinely curious.

I’ve no opinion of the Z4.
What I do know is I’m surrounded by high earning energy business guys who run all sorts of cars in that price bracket.
Porsches etc etc
They’re interested in EVs too.
I don’t even have to ask them to know what their reaction would be to spending that dough on an MG…
Seriously they would not entertain it

 

[Cocijo]

The MG brand would need some very considerable lifting before selling with confidence at that price point. It’s not just the car or the image but the back up and the dealerships that need to vastly improve.