GranTurismoEra
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What do you guys think will be available on the final production car? Borrowing some features from other performance EVs like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 N
To you, but there are people coming from real sports cars that may be won over by electric. Manufacturers may not want to mass market electric sports cars but what's the appeal if it doesnt tick the boxes. How will it sell?
No sound
Overweight
Heavy GT type handling
Expensive.
What do you get for the money....
Some interesting thoughts there. Oddly enough, we currently run an early LEAF as a run about and I have just changed out the battery to a larger new one, so yes, some of them will get new batteries!The price is irrelevant. >90% of these will be on PCP or leased. All MG/SAIC needs to do is promise to buy them back at the end of the deal. A car like this actually won't be around that long. Within a year or so of release, it will be comprehensively outclassed. Battery technology innovation will be rapid. If MG are serious about getting back into the sports car game, the Cyberster will be gone in 4-5 years. The depreciation, without manufacturer propping up of the market, will likely be horrific.
Average EV, after 3 years/36k miles, is worth 47% of new price. Petrol cars; 67%
£50k Cyberster, £5000 down, 36 months, 7%. APR. Balloon payment; £25k. But MG EVs depreciate faster than other EVs. Maybe that will get better, but over the next 12 months, MG is replacing most of its current models, some of which haven't been around that long:
New MG ZS and MG 4 hot hatch to feature in major 2024 range overhaul | Auto Express
MG will replace every model in its lineup by the end of next yearwww.autoexpress.co.uk
MG will likely control the entire used Cyberster market, in the same way Mazda in the controlled used MX5 sales during 1991-1995. Because EVs are commoditized, I would not be surprised if these are fully recycled before the normal end of life. Its one way to control supply; stick the cars on empty SAIC owned car transporters, and scrap the cars in China. Because of the rapid pace of obsolescence of EVs, people won't develop the same relationship with them as other cars. Are old Nissan leafs really going to be kept on the roads with new batteries? No. And battery life is much more time dependant than mileage dependant.
You're incorrect on the LEAF, they're all battery owned and have been for years. There was an option to rent the battery early on, but it was widely disliked and stopped years ago.yeah MG Buying back the Cybersters is the only way to keep the value. Due to the high pricing strategy the depreciation will be apparent unlike the MG4 which has been stuck in the 20s for the past year. MG4 is hugely popular so that affects used price. its already at the baseline. If MG allow a number of Cybersters to get on the used market outside the dealership network and no one wants them. They will become 30k cars within 2 years.
By year 3 to 4 there will probably be new models either facellifts or coupes going forward as the initial deals will be coming to an end. And like you said people wont be developing a connection to keep the car permanently unless theyre rich and want to collect. Im not sure MG does battery rental schemes so the older cars will probably be scrapped as you said.
Yeah the Nissan Leafs would rely on monthly battery rental which means unless you buy the battery you wont own the car completely. Theyre already planning 2 crossovers one to replace the Leaf. Nissan said the battery tech is not ready. They really missed the buck with the Leaf and allowed Tesla to take their market. If I were them id start building the "Max Out" roadster in Sunderland instead of wasting time. Once Porsche and co hit the market no one will be buying a Nissan Roadster unless its 40k and under...