Cyberster suspension

[onkeldunkel]

Nice garage

Thanks - I got divorced since then, so now it's long gone - together with the BMW K1600B :-D

 

[GranTurismoEra]

A lift system (front axle only) would triple the price (~2k -> ~6k).

Whats the expected retail price? Is this for both shocks and springs? Is it going to be electronically adjustable for firmness?

 

[m0rph]

Whats the expected retail price? Is this for both shocks and springs? Is it going to be electronically adjustable for firmness?

Final retail price, no idea.. Not electronically adjustable, and no nose lift. The KW V3 is a coilover ("coil over shock absorber") so a complete set.

 

[steve2540]

A little more info. KW is developing the V3 Street Performance coilovers for the Cyberster. So adjustable ride height, rebound (16 clicks), compression (12 clicks). Installation trial and a partial TÜV certification will be done in Fichtenberg. An exact date is still not known, but "early next year" is what I've been told. And oh, my car will be the test vehicle

Do you have allready the date with Fichtenberg?

 

[m0rph]

Do you have allready the date with Fichtenberg?

No not yet.

 

[Vader]

I am new to the world of the Cyberster, but thought I'd comment here on my observations. The suspension at the back is a compromise in my opinion. I would add that I actually agree with this compromise. Let me explain.

I have a MINI and C40 as well as the Cyberster. I think these represent all the levels of suspension. The MINI is rock hard (ok, maybe sandstone hard), and the Volvo is soft. The Cyberster sits in between. On a smooth road, really anything bar a B road, All work well. The MINI doesn't jar you too much, the Volvo doesn't wallow, and the Cyberster doesn't bounce (or whatever is the percieved issue). As the roads gets less smooth, the hard suspension of the MINI may be fun, but is jarring. You can't really road trip like this, or you will need a chiropractor afterwards. The Volvo is silky smooth - no jarring, but does feel a bit wafty. Not a "fun" car to drive, but eminently road trippable. The Cyberster lies between. If you aren't pushing hard, you have neither the jarring, or wafty behaviours as the "bounce" won't appear at normal (ie. read not driving in juvenille fun mode) speeds. This is where the Cyberster excells. Now on a dirt / potholled / poor road, the MINI is almost undrivable, the Volvo doesn't even realise and the Cyberster gets unsettled when pushing on.

I actually think the Cyberster strikes the best compromise. On good roads, which is for me almost all my driving, it handles like it is on rails. It is still comfortable enough to go on a longer road trip, and is great fun to drive. On anything but poor roads, it maintains its fun, and you could argue even when bouncing around could be considered fun due to the concentration you need to adapt to the bounce.

On a long trip, say 1000km+, the Volvo is the easy choice. Driving an armchair for an entire day is the preference. For shorter trips, the Cyberster fun factor wins out over any discomfort from the sportier (than the Volvo) ride. For a 5 minute blast, nothing beats the MINI. Like driving a gokart, great fun in short doses.

I think if the suspension was stiffened too much more, you would lose the 90%+ use case just for the occaisional B road blast. If that 90% is on good roads, then you lose nothing. I will be keeping the suspension as it is - but I am lucky to be able to choose the level of kidney stone removal I have on the current drive.

EDIT: now adjustable suspension would be the way to go, but probably prohibitively expensive. Manually adjustable probably isn't a starter unless you were tracking the car. Electronically adjustable is the gold (literally) standard.

 

[GranTurismoEra]

Any aftermarket suspension should come with electronic adjustment. Something missing from this car.