Effect of hill on range

[Mattscimmy]

Good evening folks,

I’m currently debating on wether an mg5 will work for me. I can manage with 150 mile range. Is a 2021 LR likely to be able to do this in the Derbyshire Peak District with equivalent of 2 adults and camping gear on board?.
Thankyou and apologies if this has already been discussed.

 

[kevin ellard]

Good evening folks,

I’m currently debating on wether an mg5 will work for me. I can manage with 150 mile range. Is a 2021 LR likely to be able to do this in the Derbyshire Peak District with equivalent of 2 adults and camping gear on board?.
Thankyou and apologies if this has already been discussed.

I'm fairly sure you'll be fine. Hills don't have much effect overall on an EV unless you are having to use the old fashioned brakes on the way down. If you are in the Peak District you are unlikely to be cruising at high speed so you should get plenty more than 150.
Personally I'm really glad that I have a FL which has V2L. It's great when camping to have mains power with you.

 

[Mattscimmy]

I'm fairly sure you'll be fine. Hills don't have much effect overall on an EV unless you are having to use the old fashioned brakes on the way down. If you are in the Peak District you are unlikely to be cruising at high speed so you should get plenty more than 150.
Personally I'm really glad that I have a FL which has V2L. It's great when camping to have mains power with you.

Thankyou.
I’ve read the thread on people’s range experiences but there’s very little to suggest what type of driving and terrain they are experiencing.
More of a “how far can you go” thread.
Thanks again

 

[Bam Bam]

Good evening folks,

I’m currently debating on wether an mg5 will work for me. I can manage with 150 mile range. Is a 2021 LR likely to be able to do this in the Derbyshire Peak District with equivalent of 2 adults and camping gear on board?.
Thankyou and apologies if this has already been discussed.

I think hills are good for EVs.

A lot of battery to get up, but you get regen on the way down, which ICE cars don't get (unless hybrid driving in electric only mode).

 

[MickeySw]

I think hills are good for EVs.

While EVs are certainly more efficient than ICE cars on a hilly track, they won’t be able to fully recoup the extra energy used to climb??

 

[Pete G]

We live on a mountain 38 kilometres from town. It is pretty much all down hill to get into town to shop. We use less than 10 kilometres of range to get to town to shop.
On the way home it is all uphill and we use around 65 kilometres of range to get home.
If we could get Escher to design our roads so they all went downhill that would be great. But as it is uphill climbs use plenty of range.
When we go down our mountain road to the highway ( 10 kilometres) depending on the battery charge state, we gain between 3 and 5 kilometres of range with the regen set to 3.
I know that our trips to town are a little on the extreme side but it will give you an idea of usage on mountainous terrain.
Basically it will balance out
Pete

 

[Archev]

Depending on how aggressively you climb and how gently you descend the results can be very interesting. I’ve managed to get over some hills almost for “free”.

 

[Bam Bam]

While EV’s are certainly more efficient than ICE car’s on a hilly track, they won’t be able to fully recoup the extra energy used to climb??

No, they certainly won't get it all back.

A few people have made videos driving Leafs downhill and while they might get a small amount of regen it isn't much.



I've just discovered a very early (and rough) EVMan video where he went down a big hill in his leaf in 2015.

However, a petrol car would be effectively "idling" and burning fuel throughout those downhill parts while an EV is using nothing apart from gravity, so there is a big advantage there.

 

[Mattscimmy]

Thanks to everyone that’s contributed so far.
What I really want to know is if anyone drives an mg5 in terrain similar to the Peak District and what range they get from a full charge.
I’m going to be covering 100-150 miles daily ( sometimes more)with little chance to recharge before I get home.
Will the MG5LR do it ?
Thanks again

 

[Jomarkh]

Hi, I think you will notice more of a difference between a cold winters day compared with a warm summers day, possibly 25% to 35% drop.
I like to think my SR will do 200 in the summer, 160 in the winter. My LR does almost 200 in the winter.

 

[Mattscimmy]

From what I’ve read speed and temperature are the biggest problems.
My concern with hills came from the fact that most of the MG5’s I’ve seen for sale are in flatter parts of the country and so I assume most of the range estimates are also on flatter roads.
I watched a YouTube video of someone comparing 3 different Ev’s on flat and hill ground. They showed that going faster on the flat road had the same effect on range as going slower on hills. Up and down using regeneration.
I’m at the point I think I’m going to have to make the leap and see how it goes.
Thanks again to all who commented

 

[Wibble]

We took our MG5 LR on a camping trip to Peak District last year. I was amazed how economical it was in the hills (given I Iive on fenland). The regen really helps, and hills are nothing in an EV power wise she will fly up them.

 

[moth71]

If it's any help from march through to end of October I drive regularly from Northamptonshire to Aberystwyth, over the Malvern hills & the edge of Snowdonia, in a 22 pre face lift excite LR, a 156 miles depending on time of year lowest 25% remaining to 40% left in battery

 

[Shrink Proof]

Just get the car. My 2021 MG5 LR has coped fine with the Scottish Highlands (serious hills, sheep, cows, deer, morons who can't handle single track roads, potholes you can windsurf in, etc.) on multiple expeditions (3-5 people, a ton of outdoor gear), so the Peak District should be no problem.

 

[Shrink Proof]

PS - in my experience, the thing that really decimates range isn't hills, it's cold. I've had a guesstimated range of 280 miles in high summer but as low as 180 in winter. The effect of terrain seems very much less than that. And winter happens everywhere, hills or not...

 

[OriginalBigAl]

MG4 , I live in a hilly area and on average I get around 1/3 rd of a mile less per KW compared to what UK drivers in flatter lands have reported at similar times of the year ( temperatures ).

 

[Dino]

I live in the High Peak and I get more than 150 miles in my FL LR all year round. As others have said winter kills the range, but so does harsh acceleration and braking

 

[Mattscimmy]

Thankyou everyone,

Some really good information there.
Considering the Peak District seems well served with public charging points for emergencies I think, as you all say, I will be fine.
Looking forward to becoming an EV’er
Thanks again

 

[Paul Mason]

I drove to Austria last year. Travelling up and down the mountain passes in Styria was a doddle; I got better consumption overall than on the motorway getting there

 

[Gomev]

Thankyou everyone,

Some really good information there.
Considering the Peak District seems well served with public charging points for emergencies I think, as you all say, I will be fine.
Looking forward to becoming an EV’er
Thanks again

You are currently suffering from pre EV nerves, thinking the worst and trying to plan for it. All I can say is that once you have the car you will wonder what you worried about.
I know you will find that a hard concept right now, but in 2 or 3 months you won't even be thinking of range, you'll just be wanting to jump in and drive as much as you can