It really boils my spuds to think that rapid charging costs me about 20p/mile to run my MG 4 but my full size diesel Mercedes E-class only ever costs me 10p/mile. Thankfully, I have a home charger. I feel sorry for people wanting an EV but for reasons of location or house type cannot have home charging.
I am on a 2 year EDF fixed deal and the day rate is almost 40p/kwh on the day rate ( spitful ) but with a cheap 5 hour night rate of 4.5p/kwh.
How do you manage to get 68 mpg from it?
And what does it cost in maintenance? i presume that's just the fuel.
to survive on.
Thanks for the reply Les I understand that not everyone can change to an EV at the moment, we couldn’t supply enough new ones anyway, so your post is very relevant. A friend has a Merc hybrid he was admiring the wife’s Hyundai Ioniq he was complaining he only gets 16mls from his battery. The pressure of rising costs on almost everything makes it even harder for people to go EV, but the problems are increasing we have to change. A friend of mine has had to move home and he was shocked to see the electric costs, he now pays 88p kW day and 22p at night and he’s a pensioner. The Gas ‘rip off’ needs to be stopped so we can return to reasonable prices. I was thinking of updating my MG5 lr but it has charmed me, I really like it. So we decided to get a battery instead and keep our gen1, If I had the money I would have gone for the Tesla battery but I was quoted £13000 which was a bit to much. So we went for a German company called Solar Edge, we have been using their system and its been faultless and it meant everything synchronised easily. But even their 10kW batt was £10,000 fitted, they have some vids on u tube they have some nifty ideas. Just in case you had missed it EVM has just done a new vid on his latest battery system also he tried to see if he could get a decent EV for under £5,000 which I found interesting. Les, for future reference is there much of a difference in the energy consumption between your old MG5 gen1 and your new2?Malcolm I couldn’t agree more I like yourself have solar PV and 2 EVs no home battery as yet but looking into that, so you and I plus many others on this forum are doing their best to make this a better place to be and secure in the future for our children and hopefully their children.
The issue we have is making others come along the same road and then today the Uk government as announced further massive investment in off shore OIL and Gas see below from the BBC.
I don’t know when they are going to wake up but all this has to be stopped if we are going to have a planet
Les
- Rishi Sunak says approving more oil and gas licences is "entirely consistent" with reaching net zero by 2050
- Sunak says even when net zero is reached, a quarter of UK energy needs will come from oil and gas
- At least 100 new production licences will be issued in the next round this autumn
- But issuing production licences does not mean production will take place in every case
- The SNP warns that while energy security is important, the UK needs to consider "the looming climate catastrophe"
- And Oxfam Scotland says drilling for more oil and gas in the North Sea is "short-sighted and selfish"
- Downing Street also confirms millions of pounds for a new carbon capture scheme in north-east Scotland
Whats the alternative Les?Malcolm I couldn’t agree more I like yourself have solar PV and 2 EVs no home battery as yet but looking into that, so you and I plus many others on this forum are doing their best to make this a better place to be and secure in the future for our children and hopefully their children.
The issue we have is making others come along the same road and then today the Uk government as announced further massive investment in off shore OIL and Gas see below from the BBC.
I don’t know when they are going to wake up but all this has to be stopped if we are going to have a planet
Les
- Rishi Sunak says approving more oil and gas licences is "entirely consistent" with reaching net zero by 2050
- Sunak says even when net zero is reached, a quarter of UK energy needs will come from oil and gas
- At least 100 new production licences will be issued in the next round this autumn
- But issuing production licences does not mean production will take place in every case
- The SNP warns that while energy security is important, the UK needs to consider "the looming climate catastrophe"
- And Oxfam Scotland says drilling for more oil and gas in the North Sea is "short-sighted and selfish"
- Downing Street also confirms millions of pounds for a new carbon capture scheme in north-east Scotland
It is certainly true that a lot of our policies to reduce CO2 emissions have simply exported our emissions around the world to countries that have worse environmental standards and labour laws. A boon for them, which is nice, but it is a accounting fiction that our footprint has reduced. When you think of the heavy industry that has gone, no wonder we have lower local emissions, but we're just relying on foreign heavy industry plus the transport costs / environmental damage.
But what is the alternative in the short term?
There is none, I believe Sunak is right about that.
Hi John I can see where your coming from but we need massive change across the world you can be assured Global warming is mainly man made, John the suns rays are getting stronger year on year there a figures to prove it and the atmosphere that protects us from it is being eroded by the Crap we are releasing into it again there are figures to prove, the fact that also we need to be energy secure this we know and what the government announced yesterday is going to be once again a short-term fix because the energy from oil and gas will not last forever, but the suns rays will always be there As long as we are on this planet. The wind will blow and the money would be far better, put towards improving and building our renewables infrastructure.
I think the point is we could become energy independent without fossil fuels but it would take decades of heavy investment to achieve that and in the meantime we will be using a lot of oil and gas whether we like it or not, so why not exploit what we have (which also increases short term energy security).
Hi tsedge yesterday licenses where granted to drill more fossil fuels wells this is not going to happen over a short time period so is not going to be a short term fix also we have no idea in truth how long these oil and gas supplies will last it just an educated guess and when we have used it all up we will be back where we came from needing to generate electricity from somewhere for me it’s a waste of time and money I agree lets make use of what we have that’s wind solar and waves all around this island this is just what Iceland as done.
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