I couldn’t wait to stop driving this car

[Joningy]

I think this is possibly an Australian review of the MG HS hybrid, but it's typical of many of MG's models, and somewhat similar to my own MGS5.

I couldn’t wait to stop driving this car

At what point does safety become dangerous? It’s the question that I kept asking myself during my time with the

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My brother has just bought the HS hybrid
Couple of weeks ago here in the UK, it's already been back to the dealership with niggling problems.

 

[Totti1001]

Finally, a test that reflects the facts. In previous test reports, you only ever hear how great the car is, but hardly anyone talks about the faults, and MG also seems to have little interest in rectifying them.

 

[salty]

Finally, a test that reflects the facts. In previous test reports, you only ever hear how great the car is, but hardly anyone talks about the faults, and MG also seems to have little interest in rectifying them.

You are joking. This forum is full of folk, talking about faults/niggles. And rightly so, it is a forum after all. Although you're right about MG having no interest in fixing them. Some dealers do try, but their hands are tied, as to what they can do.

 

[Joningy]

You are joking. This forum is full of folk, talking about faults/niggles. And rightly so, it is a forum after all. Although your right about MG having no interest in fixing them. Some dealers do try, but there hands are tied, to what they can do.

Totally agree @salty, the dealers are tied to what they can do, I think they actually DO try, in my case like many others though they were not able to sort the niggles, that I imagine is in MG's court.
Is it they pushed to cars out to the dealers before they were fully evaluated perhaps? A bit of a conundrum!

 

[BPM06]

“I couldn’t wait to stop driving this car

While it has many fine qualities, the MG HS is infuriating to live with”.

“I kept asking myself during my time with the MG HS Hybrid+”​

I get the points, none of which are new or revolutionary. All the professional motoring journalists (and the amateurs on the forums) have mentioned the same issues.

But we start off thinking it is a review of the MGHS; then find it is the HS+ Hybrid on review. Then it’s posted on the HS PHEV page??

My advice: do some research before you enter into one of the most expensive purchases you will make.

I previously owned the older HS (not the PHEV) and I think the new PHEV model is great value, and a pleasure to drive.

{Owned new since March 25 – no issues – yet }

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[BarrieG]

This is not something peculiar to this car or even MG.
What Car magazine recently suffered an accident, as explained in the video link, apparently caused by modern technology forced on the manufacturers by legislation.
My friend's VW Tiguan has also suffered false braking manoeuvres which have risked his car being rear ended.
The technology is clearly not mature enough to be insisted upon by legislators.

 

[Joningy]

This is not something peculiar to this car or even MG.
What Car magazine recently suffered an accident, as explained in the video link, apparently caused by modern technology forced on the manufacturers by legislation.
My friend's VW Tiguan has also suffered false braking manoeuvres which have risked his car being rear ended.
The technology is clearly not mature enough to be insisted upon by legislators.

The following Tesla was definitely travelling too close, BUT in the circumstances it was a strange thing to happen and for NO apparent reason, other than the rather feeble legal type of response from Mercedes, but it seems they did subsequently test the car and found nothing apparently wrong (they say!)

I'm very surprised it's happened on a supposedly premium car, but as you and others have reported, it's not just MG this type of thing is happening to.

It has definitely happened several times on my MG4 and my new S5, fortunately nothing serious transpired, except needing a change of underwear.

 

[Totti1001]

You are absolutely right, of course, that other brands also have problems. However, Tesla is known for releasing software updates quickly, namely OTA. This is not the case with MG, where updates are very rare and, when they do happen, you sometimes have to spend days at the garage. As I said, other manufacturers also have problems, but they usually offer quick solutions. I previously had a 2024 Ford Kuga PHEV, and although not everything was perfect there either, it was significantly better in terms of software. Unfortunately, I was somewhat blinded by the higher E range of the HS and, admittedly, didn't really pay attention to the rest, which was my mistake...
Nevertheless, I hope your trousers are dry again

 

[BarrieG]

Ah, did you manage to get out of the Kuga before Ford stopped everybody from recharging them due to a fire risk?
My son in law was not allowed to recharge his for six months, it cost him a fortune as a doctor running around on petrol when normally it cost him peanuts on electricity.
The MG issues appear just annoying by comparison.

 

[Totti1001]

, I kept charging it and the update came relatively quickly. Many people wet their pants because of this , but not me. And besides, Ford paid compensation, which would have been more than enough for me if I hadn't kept charging it. And I thought we Germans were such scaredy-cats

 

[Joningy]

, I kept charging it and the update came relatively quickly. Many people wet their pants because of this , but not me. And besides, Ford paid compensation, which would have been more than enough for me if I hadn't kept charging it. And I thought we Germans were such scaredy-cats

Auf Deutsch
Hallo Freund,
Ja, die meisten Hersteller haben ähnliche Probleme mit kleineren Fehlern. Mein drei Monate alter MGS5 hat auch ein paar kleine Macken, mit denen ich mich aber mittlerweile abgefunden habe.
ABER wenn ein Hersteller ein Auto baut, sollte es – egal ob mit elektronischen oder mechanischen Problemen – einwandfrei funktionieren und nicht monatelang scheinbar unbeachtet bleiben, wenn es ein Problem gibt. Mir kommt es so vor, als würden die Autos in die Ausstellungsräume gedrängt, bevor sie wirklich ausgereift sind.

In English
Hi friend,
Yes most makes have similar problems with small glitches, my 3 month old MGS5 has a few small problems, which I have learned to live with.
BUT when any manufacturer builds a car, be it electronic or mechanical problllems, it should work properly and not be allowed to go seemingly unattended for months if there's a problem.
It strikes me cars are being pushed to the showrooms before being totally sorted.

 

[Totti1001]

I understand what you mean. But as you yourself write, you have come to terms with the faults. And that is precisely the mistake. The manufacturers are simply testing who has the most staying power. And if everyone comes to terms with the faults, not much will change, and many manufacturers are counting on that. Unfortunately, my experiences with Chinese manufacturers in other areas have not been so good. The Chinese prefer to bring new hardware onto the market rather than worry about the software. Selling hardware brings in money, software support does not. And isn't it a little crazy that many manufacturers bring a new model onto the market every 1-2 years? When I got my driving licence, the models were on the market for a good 10 years before a new one came out. Even my HS PEHV, which is six months older, is already outdated because mg has now released a new model, albeit a minor update.
I hope the Google translations aren't too bad, but thank you for the German translation

 

[PFCWales]

I have been driving my new Phev for around 6 weeks now, and having watched many hours of 'expert' video reviews I must admit that I had great concerns about the 'bings and bongs' that were foremost in all the feedback; but in all honesty the only 'bong' I get is the speed limit warning - which living in an area that is predominantly 20mph is very useful. So maybe my car is 'faulty' .

On the subject of faults, I have been an engineer for over 40 years, finding and fixing faults on a vast array of electro-mechanical and computer based systems and, I have always been curious about what people consider to be 'a fault' - especially on cars.

Software is in everything these days (even my fan assisted oven had an 'update' last week), and we all get frustrated when the website/app we are using refuses to do what we want.
When this happens, how many people declare their tablet, phone or laptop to be faulty?
But put a software glitch in a car (any make) and the whole vehicle is condemned as unreliable rubbish.
I come from a time when door panels used to be held on by the door handle as rust had eaten away the door seams (Datsun Cherry), and when 'starts first time ...' used to be offered as an attraction, so my expectations from a vehicle are quite basic. A lot of the 'features' complained about in current cars are nothing more than frippery, and do very little to affect the overall reliabilty of a vehicle.

 

[HStrophyPHEV2025rc]

@PFCWales - I couldn't agree more. Fantastically well put. I miss the times when Britain was known for its 'mustn't grumble' attitude. Sure, there are genuine times when we should complain, but it seems that the modern attitude is too often to moan about things instead of appreciating the wonderfulness of most of life.

• Or (to put it another way) there are people out there who have genuinely tough lives, and have gone through terrible trauma. Compared to that, a few bings and bongs is nothing to worry about.

As a computer/software engineer myself (for the past 30+ years) I spent every day fixing faults. So long as my MG HS PHEV does not break down, then I am absolutely delighted with it. The bings and bongs are just its quirky personality to me. I love my car!

 

[salty]

I have been driving my new Phev for around 6 weeks now, and having watched many hours of 'expert' video reviews I must admit that I had great concerns about the 'bings and bongs' that were foremost in all the feedback; but in all honesty the only 'bong' I get is the speed limit warning - which living in an area that is predominantly 20mph is very useful. So maybe my car is 'faulty' .

On the subject of faults, I have been an engineer for over 40 years, finding and fixing faults on a vast array of electro-mechanical and computer based systems and, I have always been curious about what people consider to be 'a fault' - especially on cars.

Software is in everything these days (even my fan assisted oven had an 'update' last week), and we all get frustrated when the website/app we are using refuses to do what we want.
When this happens, how many people declare their tablet, phone or laptop to be faulty?
But put a software glitch in a car (any make) and the whole vehicle is condemned as unreliable rubbish.
I come from a time when door panels used to be held on by the door handle as rust had eaten away the door seams (Datsun Cherry), and when 'starts first time ...' used to be offered as an attraction, so my expectations from a vehicle are quite basic. A lot of the 'features' complained about in current cars are nothing more than frippery, and do very little to affect the overall reliabilty of a vehicle.

Agree to a certain extent. But folk are all different. What some folk think is trivial.
Will bug the hell, out of others.

 

[Herandnu]

My main issue is with the indicator sound which I think must have been implemented by a team of half deaf technicians. It cuts into my ears too much, even when I have turned it's volume down from 4 to 2.

Every time I indicate I notice it. Perhaps it's just my hearing, I have seen one or two others mention it.

The warning bongs I don't mind so much but I do turn off the speed warnings on longer journeys.

I haven't actually had any niggles that make me not want to drive the car, though. But I do agree that car reviews usually gloss over negatives - they do t want to upset manufacturers too much.

 

[Totti1001]

@PFCWales, I respect your opinion, of course, but I cannot share it at all. Please don't be angry with me, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are the best example of the kind of buyer manufacturers want.
Whether it's a gimmick or not, when I buy a vehicle with certain features, I want it to work as advertised. I find it a little incomprehensible how one can put up with all the faults just because one doesn't value them oneself. Why buy such a vehicle in the first place?
To be clear: I liked the HS too, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it, but if that's the attitude of some buyers, it's no wonder that the manufacturer doesn't bother to fix the faults.

 

[salty]

@PFCWales, I respect your opinion, of course, but I cannot share it at all. Please don't be angry with me, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you are the best example of the kind of buyer manufacturers want.
Whether it's a gimmick or not, when I buy a vehicle with certain features, I want it to work as advertised. I find it a little incomprehensible how one can put up with all the faults just because one doesn't value them oneself. Why buy such a vehicle in the first place?
To be clear: I liked the HS too, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it, but if that's the attitude of some buyers, it's no wonder that the manufacturer doesn't bother to fix the faults.

I agree. No matter how cheap the car, everything should work, correctly. It's as simple as that. No excuse coz it's a cheap/ish car. But stuff just doesn't bother some folk, as much as it bothers, others. Again it's as simple as that.
Its not incomprehensible, it's just folk, think differently.

 

[BarrieG]

I can't believe that is the attitude of any manufacturers, unless they are cash strapped, particularly with the Chinese.
Social media are so powerful nowadays that a barrage of niggles on a forum like this can very easily result in lost sales and no manufacturers can afford that.
The problem for customers like us is to pick out the real issues from those being posted by competitors.
The Jaecoo 5 is taking a real pasting at the moment tfrom respected youtubers, which I would tend to believe, that hasn't happened for the MG eHS.

 

[Totti1001]

Let's hope so . But here's an example, and I don't know how it was in England: when VW cheated and lied to customers in Germany about the diesel scandal, what happened? People continued to buy VWs in the following years, in some cases with significant increases in sales figures.
So as not to come across as someone who is always complaining: I like the MG HS, but many, albeit mostly minor, faults only became apparent over time, and most garages seem to be simply overwhelmed, with MG not doing much about it. I hope that will change.