Instrument Display Discrepancy - Trophy version

[RicWalLar]

MG3 Hybrid+ Trophy. New last Tuesday.

The Owner’s Manual (pages 31 & 33) shows the Instrument Pack - Type A (HEV Models) as having the following menu structure for the Message Centre (item 4, top right side of the display):

Health Centre: Tyre Pressure Monitoring, Low-voltage Battery, Warning Message
Trip Computer: From Start, Accumulated Total, Odometer, Power Meter, Energy Flow, Accelerogram
Navigation: Display navigation information from the entertainment system
Settings: Brightness Level, Overspeed Threshold, Next service, Time setting, Unit settings, Language
Media: Displays any multimedia messages from the infotainment system
Bluetooth Phone: Displays any Bluetooth phone information from the entertainment system

However, on my car the only displays that can be seen from the Message Centre, by pressing the right arrow on the joystick button, scroll through:
Tyre Pressure (Health Centre)
From Start (Trip Computer)
Next Service (Settings) - (mileage until next service is shown by top or bottom joystick arrows)
The Odometer is displayed continuously as ODO below.

I can find no way of accessing all the other information that's supposed to be provided in the Message Centre.
All of the Settings items, other than Next service, can be accessed on the central infotainment screen, as against the driver's instrument pack screen. So that's not really a problem.

The ones I would particularly like to see, but can't, are Accumulated Total, Power Meter & Energy Flow (I don't know what an Accelerogram is).
I'm wondering if this is an issue anyone else has found? Do I have a software fault?
Obviously I'll take it up with the dealer but thought I'd check here before doing so.
Grateful for any advice.

 

[Chinook]

Hi if you look at the buttons on the steering wheel right hand side next to the joystick, if your press the centre button this opens up different menus, and you can scroll up and down left and right with the joystick, once you have finished press the centre button again to release the menus otherwise on my car the radio stays on mute on the joystick

 

[RicWalLar]

Thanks. I think I've found the problem. User error
I was pressing the joystick button downwards (away from me) at each edge rather than pushing it in the direction of the arrows. So I think the issue is resolved without recourse to further interaction with dealer or software updates. I need a reboot!

 

[Chinook]

Thanks. I think I've found the problem. User error
I was pressing the joystick button downwards (away from me) at each edge rather than pushing it in the direction of the arrows. So I think the issue is resolved without recourse to further interaction with dealer or software updates. I need a reboot!

Glad to help enjoy your car

 

[andrewjoseph]

I have the trophy version and after reading this thread, I had a look at my display. No matter what I do I can't get the other options mentioned. i.e. navigation, settings, media, bluetooth phone, to show on drivers info display. I only get health, trip, and a subset of the settings options (overspeed and next service). What am I missing?

The manual shows several of these options with an asterix, but I can't see what this asterix refers to.

 

[RicWalLar]

I have the trophy version and after reading this thread, I had a look at my display. No matter what I do I can't get the other options mentioned. i.e. navigation, settings, media, bluetooth phone, to show on drivers info display. I only get health, trip, and a subset of the settings options (overspeed and next service). What am I missing?

The manual shows several of these options with an asterix, but I can't see what this asterix refers to.

I think the asterisk probably means these are options on the higher level of trim but it doesn't make that clear anywhere that I can see. And as there are only two trim levels SE & the higher level Trophy, you would imagine that, if this is the case, then all the items with an asterisk would be included with the Trophy. That's my starting point anyway.
I agree that it seems impossible to access some of the items included under "Message Centre" at pages 33-34 of the manual. Aside from the typos & grammatical errors I've come to the rapid conclusion that it's a not very well put together manual!
One of the things it would be good to do is "set the speed limit value for overspeed warning" as stated under "Settings" as "Overspeed Threshold*" (page 34). I appreciate having the 3 warning beeps, but not when it comes on at say 41mph, goes off again at 39, then back on at 41.
However I've just discovered that in Navigation (page 207) I can set a threshold speed limit. I've put it at 110% but am yet to try it out. Hopefully it works whether or not I have a route planned. But that facility certainly isn't available where page 34 says it should be. I wonder if anyone else has discovered these discrepancies? OK, they're not massive, but it seems odd that a manual is produced that is evidently incorrect. Or am I missing something too?

 

[andrewjoseph]

I think the asterisk probably means these are options on the higher level of trim but it doesn't make that clear anywhere that I can see. And as there are only two trim levels SE & the higher level Trophy, you would imagine that, if this is the case, then all the items with an asterisk would be included with the Trophy. That's my starting point anyway.
I agree that it seems impossible to access some of the items included under "Message Centre" at pages 33-34 of the manual. Aside from the typos & grammatical errors I've come to the rapid conclusion that it's a not very well put together manual!
One of the things it would be good to do is "set the speed limit value for overspeed warning" as stated under "Settings" as "Overspeed Threshold*" (page 34). I appreciate having the 3 warning beeps, but not when it comes on at say 41mph, goes off again at 39, then back on at 41.
However I've just discovered that in Navigation (page 207) I can set a threshold speed limit. I've put it at 110% but am yet to try it out. Hopefully it works whether or not I have a route planned. But that facility certainly isn't available where page 34 says it should be. I wonder if anyone else has discovered these discrepancies? OK, they're not massive, but it seems odd that a manual is produced that is evidently incorrect. Or am I missing something too?

I think the asterixed items may be for differetn countries, there is a version with a sunroof for example.

I have tried setting threshold speed limit to 115% as you have done, but not noticed any change. As far as i can see it the car registers the speed signs and warns you when you go over regardless of any settings.

 

[RicWalLar]

I've just been out for a trial, having set the threshold in Navigation to 110%. Purely in the interests of research, I exceeded speed limits 3 times, by roughly 11% . It seems that the beep came at that point but I also got Kate Satnav telling me "You have exceeded the speed limit". Which is slightly annoying (nothing personal Kate) but on the other hand I really don't plan to exceed the speed limit by more than 10% so, if that does continue to function like that, I'm happy. I couldn't find a setting to ask Kate not to worry about telling me this, but it's probably just as well to have her ticking me off if I go too fast.
I found the asterisk stuff, at page 19 of the manual under Symbols Used:
"An asterisk (*) appearing after the title or the text, identifies features or items of equipment that are only fitted to some models, and may not be fitted on the vehicle your [sic] purchased."

 

[andrewjoseph]

I've just been out for a trial, having set the threshold in Navigation to 110%. Purely in the interests of research, I exceeded speed limits 3 times, by roughly 11% . It seems that the beep came at that point but I also got Kate Satnav telling me "You have exceeded the speed limit". Which is slightly annoying (nothing personal Kate) but on the other hand I really don't plan to exceed the speed limit by more than 10% so, if that does continue to function like that, I'm happy. I couldn't find a setting to ask Kate not to worry about telling me this, but it's probably just as well to have her ticking me off if I go too fast.
I found the asterisk stuff, at page 19 of the manual under Symbols Used:
"An asterisk (*) appearing after the title or the text, identifies features or items of equipment that are only fitted to some models, and may not be fitted on the vehicle your [sic] purchased."

thanks, i'll give it another try.

 

[andrewjoseph]

Changed threshold setting to 130% (max) last night, didn't make any difference to speed warning sounds when 1mph over posted limit. The voice did warn me that I was over the limit at 53mph on 50 mph dual carriageway. Turned off threshold setting again as my wife doesn't like the voice startling her.

 

[securespark]

I think Mrs S would like to turn the threshold setting down on me sometimes!

 

[RicWalLar]

That's interesting but rather disappointing. I'll give mine a more substantial test soon. First time it certainly didn't beep at me at 72 mph. I'm not sure about the 30 mph margin but I'm happy with it being closer; in my view exceeding 30 is almost always a much more serious misdeed than 10% over 70 which is what most motorway drivers do. (I've slowed down a bit in my old age, as one should rightly do, having passed my test in 1965.)

I watched the Jerry Pan video User Guide 4 on Digital Dashboard Display & Settings. For over a minute from 6:05 he shows the Overspeed Threshold setting on the right side of the driver display, under the Settings icon, where he sets the threshold in tranches of 5km/h (this is New Zealand). But that facility is clearly disabled in UK. But anyway, it's not really much help if you can only set one speed limit threshold; what about all the others? So a percentage threshold is more useful if it works with all speed limits.
I'll see how I get on with it.

 

[andrewjoseph]

That's interesting but rather disappointing. I'll give mine a more substantial test soon. First time it certainly didn't beep at me at 72 mph. I'm not sure about the 30 mph margin but I'm happy with it being closer; in my view exceeding 30 is almost always a much more serious misdeed than 10% over 70 which is what most motorway drivers do. (I've slowed down a bit in my old age, as one should rightly do, having passed my test in 1965.)

I watched the Jerry Pan video User Guide 4 on Digital Dashboard Display & Settings. For over a minute from 6:05 he shows the Overspeed Threshold setting on the right side of the driver display, under the Settings icon, where he sets the threshold in tranches of 5km/h (this is New Zealand). But that facility is clearly disabled in UK. But anyway, it's not really much help if you can only set one speed limit threshold; what about all the others? So a percentage threshold is more useful if it works with all speed limits.
I'll see how I get on with it.

The overspeed threshold on right drivers screen is available on my car, I've turned that off too as I can't see the point.

 

[RicWalLar]

That’s weird if some cars have it and some don’t. But I agree it’s unlikely to be much use.

 

[andrewjoseph]

That’s weird if some cars have it and some don’t. But I agree it’s unlikely to be much use.

have you tried to select and change the value or was it set to 'off'?

 

[RicWalLar]

have you tried to select and change the value or was it set to 'off'?

The option just doesn't appear at all on the driver's display. I only discovered it might exist through the video; in that it appears on the same screen as the Next Service option. On mine Next Service is the only option that shows on that screen.
So the only place I can make any changes is in the Navigation settings on the big infotainment (I dislike that word) screen, to change the percentage of overspeed that triggers a warning. In the video the driver's display option allows changing in tranches of 5 km/ph.
What does it allow you to do in your screen: change actual speed limit like in the video, or change percentage like in the Navigation settings?

I'm out in the car later today so will have the chance to check it out on some faster roads. Will report back.