Its amazing how ice drivers are environment experts

[DuracellBunny]

If you are going to quote p/mile you really need to include the capital cost of the vehicle. Currently I'm running at just under £2/mile having done 12,000 miles in 13 months.

My previous ICE which I had for about 2 years till it died ended at about 24p/mile, and the one before that I had from new for 14 years till that died ran out at 18.2p/mile - total lifetime costs including tax, tyres, servicing and £50 back from the scrap dealer at the end.

To match that the MG5 will need to get close to 140,000 miles with mostly free (local solar) leccy. At current rates that means about 11 years, by which time the battery will be getting pretty knackered.

Of course in 11 years the price of petrol might be around that of vintage champagne today plus all of the black swans (positive and negative) flying around just out of sight.

My point being that current p/mile for fuel only is a pretty meaningless comparison - the £5k (minimum) premium that you pay for a new EV rather than equivalent ICE is going to add 5p/mile over 100k miles anyway.

I have done 10k miles in my MG5 LR, I guess it lost £4k off its brand new price and the leccy it has spent is worth £640 on my current Scottish Power tariff so it has cost me 46p/mile, a quarter of your estimate. SOH of battery is reported as 100% and going with other reports I reckon I am looking at 70-80% SOH after 10 years/150k miles dropping my real life range from 200m to 140m.
By then I would had saved £20k in fuel costs alone compared to my old Audi A3 50mpg diesel.

 

[biffo]

I have done 10k miles in my MG5 LR, I guess it lost £4k off its brand new price and the leccy it has spent is worth £640 on my current Scottish Power tariff so it has cost me 46p/mile, a quarter of your estimate. SOH of battery is reported as 100% and going with other reports I reckon I am looking at 70-80% SOH after 10 years/150k miles dropping my real life range from 200m to 140m.
By then I would had saved £20k in fuel costs alone compared to my old Audi A3 50mpg diesel.

70-80% seems a touch pessimistic for 150k miles as recently seen 99.3% SOH after 30k miles - is a drop of 20-30% over five times the distance likely despite the 10 year timescale? I appreciate that no one really knows but feels like a lot to lose.

BTW, you weren't charging at Cambuslang Park & Ride on Sunday were you? Saw a red MG5 there and it wasn't the forum member I thought it was.

 

[DuracellBunny]

70-80% seems a touch pessimistic for 150k miles as recently seen 99.3% SOH after 30k miles - is a drop of 20-30% over five times the distance likely despite the 10 year timescale? I appreciate that no one really knows but feels like a lot to lose.

BTW, you weren't charging at Cambuslang Park & Ride on Sunday were you? Saw a red MG5 there and it wasn't the forum member I thought it was.

To be honest I expect to be around 85% SOH but I want to avoid the dispute, car pays for itself in fuel only and there is serious residual value.

I live in Burnside and sometimes I charge it in Cambuslang P&R but not last Sunday. South Lanarkshire Charge Place Scotland is free, in my estimate I put down what would cost me on my tariff not what I really payed.

I am getting quotes for solar panels with battery so I can switch to Octopus Go.

 

[biffo]

To be honest I expect to be around 85% SOH but I want to avoid the dispute, car pays for itself in fuel only and there is serious residual value.

I live in Burnside and sometimes I charge it in Cambuslang P&R but not last Sunday. South Lanarkshire Charge Place Scotland is free, in my estimate I put down what would cost me on my tariff not what I really payed.

I am getting quotes for solar panels with battery so I can switch to Octopus Go.

Not to hijack this thread, but think I’ve seen your car on Stonelaw Road at least once and thought it was @weedavemac who lives in the area too.

I’m 5 minute walk to the rapids and AC units around Rutherglen station so use those or leave on an AC unit during the afternoon. Tend to charge at home to balance but moving to Octopus on Friday so might overnight charge more frequently.

Solar panels and battery are next, had EPC redone and cavity wall insulation loan just been approved so that’ll happen first as pre-requisite for applying for a solar PV loan.

 

[Gomev]

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I’m 5 minute walk to the rapids and AC units around Rutherglen station so use those or leave on an AC unit during the afternoon. Tend to charge at home to balance but moving to Octopus on Friday so might overnight charge more frequently.

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I switched to Octopus Go in March but still find it hard to wean myself off the freebie Podpoints down the road, even knowing I'm only saving 50p/hour.
(I am an adopted Yorkshireman - perhaps that explains it )

 

[DuracellBunny]

Not to hijack this thread, but think I’ve seen your car on Stonelaw Road at least once and thought it was @weedavemac who lives in the area too.

I’m 5 minute walk to the rapids and AC units around Rutherglen station so use those or leave on an AC unit during the afternoon. Tend to charge at home to balance but moving to Octopus on Friday so might overnight charge more frequently.

Solar panels and battery are next, had EPC redone and cavity wall insulation loan just been approved so that’ll happen first as pre-requisite for applying for a solar PV loan.

My reg ends in OML, I pass on Stonelaw Road at weekends

 

[weedavemac]

Good to know that the MG5 is popular in the Rutherglen/Burnside area, and that we all use this forum too.