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[Buster72]

Germany ... MG seem to be prioritising UK sales over other EU countries. (Probably because this is Treasure Island and they can make more profit here).

Not sure I agree with that. Remember, MG was a UK car manufacturer. And MG is a recognised brand here.

 

[siteguru]

MG are now merely a brand owned by a Chinese company. And the MG brand didn't have a great name (latterly) in the UK.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'll stick with mine, thanks.

 

[bowfer]

MG are now merely a brand owned by a Chinese company. And the MG brand didn't have a great name (latterly) in the UK.

Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'll stick with mine, thanks.

A state owned company.
Which I can’t help but wonder if this is where a lot of the 4’s issues stem from.
I just have this niggling thing about employees of state owned car companies not giving a damn.
Irrational, maybe.

 

[bowfer]

This is an odd post, as to state the 4 won against far more premium marques like BMW/Audi/Merc, in itself, means nothing.
You don’t get much in those marques for 4 money, certainly not electric ones.
So precisely what BMWs/Audis/Mercs was it compared against??
New ones…doubt it…
Used ones, of which type?
It’s just such a vague thing to post.
Yes if you’re set on an EV then the 4 will win against them, as they don’t have anything to compete in the price range.
But if you take that out of the equation, which the OP clearly has, otherwise why bother with the comparisons at all, is he really saying a 4 is a superior motorway muncher to a BMW/Audi/Merc?
Come on.

 

[Macadoodle]

It was ok with me tainted a bit as Tesla delivery centre hid damage on collection and refused to help. After that we had rear lights full of water a failed centre screen and massive phantom breaking problems. I could have lived with it for the year. But Vicky hated it with a passion. She detested the driving position the centre screen and just thought it was the devils spawn so for a peaceful life got rid of it after 6 months and 20k miles

Interesting, for the premium you're paying I would expect better. The main beef I have with Tesla is their obsession with putting everything on a stupid massive screen, and the fact that every other manufacturer followed them.
Buttons are beautiful, buttons are safe, some things just work and that's that IMO.
The functions being on the central screen and all the nannying bollox partially ruin the MG4 for me, but that's the modern car experience I guess.
Not easy being an analogue lover in a digital world

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Much prefer buttons, Kind of glad I got a bit of the best of both with my Megane

The row of silver buttons control driver and passengers heating, one for each heated seat, rear demister, fan speed, fan direction/mode. It also has a physical button on the right side of the wheel for deactivating/activating LKA. All though it is pretty subtle when on.

 

[Macadoodle]

Returning the thread to things you love about the 4, I turned off the traction control on a deserted wet road today.
Ooh, she's surprisingly frisky ! Smoked the lighter loaded rear tyre out of a T junction like an American muscle car, quite comical really.
Mind how you go if you try it, traction control truly is OFF

 

[Shengis]

I love how quiet it is. I drove around the town yesterday with the radio off and just heard the light electricy whistle when accelerating which I enjoyed.

Coming from recently driving about in a Seat Leon Cupra 290 I find the MG4 pretty quick and nimble to drive.

I also enjoy the regen braking now that I’m getting used to it. I enjoy driving to my destination without having to touch the brake.

Add me to the list of folk happy and having positive thoughts on the car! ?

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Returning the thread to things you love about the 4, I turned off the traction control on a deserted wet road today.
Ooh, she's surprisingly frisky ! Smoked the lighter loaded rear tyre out of a T junction like an American muscle car, quite comical really.
Mind how you go if you try it, traction control truly is OFF

That will be me told then???

 

[Macadoodle]

That will be me told then???

Yep, got to keep you interlopers in check

 

[PristDean]

Buttons v Screens
It seems that buttons can wear over time and fail. A screen less so
Also seems that buttons are easier to operate than a screen when driving.

Maybe we need a dashboard of screens easily reachable by the driver upon which most used functions are easily accessible and easily action'd whilst driving, Bit...cost v usability.

I have only test driven an MG4. But it seems they are trying to provide info on the screen behind the steering wheel, functional aspects via a main screen with a few buttons below. All seems good to me, but proof of that pudding will be in the eating I suppose (daily driving). I won't get to taste mine until June.

 

[siteguru]

The main gripe is changing drive mode and regen mode ... unless you have a Trophy then these can only be done via the Infotainment screen - and the targets aren't that big. (OK if you do it before you start, but not so easy when you're already driving. If the car remembered your last settings then this likely wouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't - it always reverts to NORMAL drive mode and Regen level 3. Personally I prefer CUSTOM - everything Normal but Power set to ECO - and Adaptive regen).

Edit: just to say, my car remembers my CUSTOM settings so i don't need to apply them each time - if it would remember that CUSTOM was last selected then that would be better.

 

[Cocijo]

Buttons v Screens
It seems that buttons can wear over time and fail. A screen less so
Also seems that buttons are easier to operate than a screen when driving.

Maybe we need a dashboard of screens easily reachable by the driver upon which most used functions are easily accessible and easily action'd whilst driving, Bit...cost v usability.

I have only test driven an MG4. But it seems they are trying to provide info on the screen behind the steering wheel, functional aspects via a main screen with a few buttons below. All seems good to me, but proof of that pudding will be in the eating I suppose (daily driving). I won't get to taste mine until June.

Everyone has a different view on hard v soft switches. Tesla lead the way on minimalistic dashboards with nearly all functions controlled via a touch screen. This was really targeted towards fully autonomous driving.
Having used quite a few variants, a balance is my preferred view.
Functions that are used often - particularly when driving, should have hard buttons if possible (or at least be permanently displayed soft controls on the touch screen).
I am not a fan of touch sensitive steering wheel buttons.
Examples of areas where hard buttons and dials seem to work well are;
HVAC control
Windscreen wipers
Home button
Radio volume
There are more of course more depending on your preferences, but generally once you’ve settled in car you tend not to change that much on a frequent basis.
Having memory presets by driver is also a big bonus if available and the car has multiple drivers.

 

[Deleted member 10041]

Totally agree but I'm saying nothing, I keep getting told off?

 

[bowfer]

Buttons v Screens
It seems that buttons can wear over time and fail. A screen less so
Also seems that buttons are easier to operate than a screen when driving.

Maybe we need a dashboard of screens easily reachable by the driver upon which most used functions are easily accessible and easily action'd whilst driving, Bit...cost v usability.

I have only test driven an MG4. But it seems they are trying to provide info on the screen behind the steering wheel, functional aspects via a main screen with a few buttons below. All seems good to me, but proof of that pudding will be in the eating I suppose (daily driving). I won't get to taste mine until June.

Buttons failing, is this really a thing?
It’s genuinely not something I’ve come across before, and I occasionally drive some right old pieces of dung….
Besides, single buttons are easily replaced.

With regard to the wee screen in front of us, I’d like the ability to switch info off.
I don’t use lane assist, I don’t use ACC, but I still have the graphic of a car and lanes cluttering the screen.

 

[Cocijo]

Modern buttons don’t Fail that often. Another bonus for manufacturers is that using the software instead of physical buttons saves money.

 

[Macadoodle]

Another bonus for manufacturers is that using the software instead of physical buttons saves money.

Think that is the main reason the button is becoming extinct. I hadn't realised just how much I used the recirculation button on my last car, could hit it immediately when some stinking bus or van belched out a cloud of carcinogenic particulates.
Small details like this matter.

 

[liberostelios]

Modern buttons don’t Fail that often. Another bonus for manufacturers is that using the software instead of physical buttons saves money.

Using software also means you can adjust/extend the functionality in the future. I still remember that this was Steve Jobs' initial reasoning for the elimination of buttons from phones when the iPhone was introduced.

 

[Cocijo]

Using software also means you can adjust/extend the functionality in the future. I still remember that this was Steve Jobs' initial reasoning for the elimination of buttons from phones when the iPhone was introduced.

Yes - complete new dashboard every year if you like! It’s interesting to see all the cars at CES this year - they are totally part of the tech scene now.

 

[PristDean]

Buttons failing, is this really a thing?
It’s genuinely not something I’ve come across before, and I occasionally drive some right old pieces of dung….
Besides, single buttons are easily replaced.

With regard to the wee screen in front of us, I’d like the ability to switch info off.
I don’t use lane assist, I don’t use ACC, but I still have the graphic of a car and lanes cluttering the screen.

You've fared better than me then... I've driven some 'lovely' cars who have experienced button degradation and failure. Markings wearing off, LED light failing, button just doing nowt. Then BMW want £150 + VAT for a button.

Agree with other posts, it's definitely a cost saving for the manufacturer, no relevant parts they have to stock either. Electric cars are simple compared to ICE but cost more, it's a win win at the dealership ?