MG HS Hybrid +

I believe you are referring to this https://www.mg.co.uk/new-cars/mg-hs-hybrid. As far as I know, that's just a standard petrol engine with a small battery (that only gets charged by the petrol motor) good enough for a handful of miles around town. It is not a 'true' EV or a 'Plug in'
=> I personally think it is outside of the scope of that this forum was designed for (which is full electric, or at least plug-ins which can be connected to an electricity plug).

That said, maybe it's exactly the type of car that appeals to some people ;-)
 
I realise it's not an EV, nor is it a plug-in, but this forum includes hybrids, even the lesser, non plug-in ones, whether you personally think they are outside the scope of the forum or not.

As for the PHEV, it would be lovely, but I can't afford the extra payments.
 
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Obviously there are loads of variables (how many miles you drive per day, if you have access to a driveway) but getting the PHEV could save you a lot per month in fuel. My back-of-a-fag-packet calculations suggest I'm saving about £70-£80 per month in fuel (including the cost of the added electricity)
=> Maybe when you factor in that, then the cost of the payments actually make the PHEV cheaper for you?

I certainly originally looked at the 'standard' 1.5T petrol engine version, but when I factored in the savings I would make with overnight electricity, it was a no-brainer for me to get the PHEV.
 
Thanks.

This is why I was asking about how the MG Hybrid + system works and what their mpg is like.

I was looking at a Sportage PHEV but in the Which? review, it said that once the battery was depleted, the consumption plummeted to around 30mpg. Which is no good, if, to keep consumption in a decent range, you have to keep topping the battery up, I think every 40 miles.

How does the HS PHEV perform once the battery has depleted (75 miles?).
What is the mpg?
Does the car refill the battery on the move?
Does mpg improve once you have recharged the battery by plugging in? I guess it does, as you are using EV mode only for up to 75 miles.

I understand that if the car is using fossil to recharge the battery, it will hit the consumption, but once the battery has been recharged, the low consumption level will be achievable once more?

As I say, I am clueless about hybrids....
 
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I've read that now.

Don't know why the PHEV hasn't got fast charge capability.

As I mentioned earlier, Which? magazine reviewed a Sportage PHEV whose mpg plummeted once the battery depleted. Is that the case with the HS PHEV?

I'm really interested to compare real world experience of mpg between drivers of the HS PHEV and those of the Hybrid +.
 
Thanks, Clive.

I did look for reviews of the HS Hybrid + on YT, but couldn't see any.

I'm not sure how long it's been on sale.

I was rather hoping some on here may have some figures, but as I say, that rather depends how long the Hybrid + has been on sale here.
 
In response to your "Which? magazine reviewed a Sportage PHEV whose mpg plummeted once the battery depleted. Is that the case with the HS PHEV?" question, below are some real-world statistics captured by me today.
  • I drove to work this morning (69 miles) entirely on electric power.
    • I set off with 100% full battery, which cost me £2 to fully charge (0 to 100%) overnight (using off-peak tarif). For the record, it would have cost me £5.70 if I had used peak-rate electricity (my EDF tarif).
    • When I arrived at work, I had approx 0% battery (although it was still travelling on electric power just)
  • I drove back home, and the petrol kicked in from approx 300 yards into the journey (so the journey was almost entirely petrol-powered).
    • The dashboard told me that the overall fuel consumption was 50.4 mpg
    • Based on 132p per litre, this cost me £8.30 in petrol
    • [For reference, average speed was 55mph]

Both journeys were done using the exact same route (80% motorway at 70mph, 15% country roads approx 40mph, and 5% town stop-start traffic lights etc.). The air conditioning and heater were both off.

So my conclusions are:
  • If you can use off-peak electricity, fuel costs are over 4 times cheaper than petrol
  • If you are forced to use peak electricty, you still save approx 31% (compared with petrol)
  • Once you run out of stored electricity, then (massively depending on driving styles and other factors) if you are a careful/steady driver you may see reasonably-good mpg (e.g. 50+) over a mainly-motorway journey
From what I can see, in very basic terms, the HS Hybrid+ is the same as a PHEV (e.g. same 1.5T petrol engine) except smaller battery (which cannot be charged by an outside source) and smaller electric engine (therefore less power/acceleration than the PHEV).

Because the MG HS Hybrid + has a smaller (therefore lighter) battery, I would expect its mpg would be slightly better than my PHEV.
=> As a back-of-the-fag-packet calculation, I would guess that the Hybrid+ would probably have done 51mpg doing my journey this afternoon.

All guesswork of course, but educated guesswork nonetheless.
 
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To answer some of your other (previous) questions:

"How does the HS PHEV perform once the battery has depleted (75 miles?)"
You hardly notice it change. There is a slight extra vibration (when on pure EV it's incredibly smooth) but it's miniscule.

Naturally you also lose approximately 150bhp, but the remaining 170bhp (of the 1.5T petrol engine) is absolutely fine for 99% of your needs. You lose the ability to do 0-60 in 6.8 seconds, but once you've done that a handful of times (when you first get the car) you soon lose interest in trying (and succeeding) in beating almost all petrol cars (and most cars in general) at the lights.

"Does the car refill the battery on the move?"
Yes.
  • Partly during braking (regenerative)
  • Partly by increasing the RPM of the car slightly above what you need for the speed you are going, and converting the rest to electricity.
 
Thanks.

But your last statement is at odds to the MG article explaining how hybrids work. It says that plug-in hybrids cannot be self charged.
 
I don't know the weight of the HS Hybrid+, but it must be well above the MG3 Hybrid+, which is very nippy, and given that it's the same 1.5 hybrid engine that's in the MG3 and ZS Hybrids, the 0-60 time is lower, so they must have done something else to it to achieve that figure.
 

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