MG4 reliability

[gdog]

Is it just me?

fair enough if your not interested.

 

[siteguru]

what is the usefulness of this reply? @MG Clive clarified his position and i agreed.

Yet you disagreed with me when I made the exact same point.

 

[gdog]

Yet you disagreed with me when I made the exact same point.

heaven forbid someone should disagree with you. unforgivable.

I didnt realise that you were referring to write off that are scrapped only. As far as i know, not all written off cars are scrapped, some are just deemed not economic to repair.

 

[T1 Terry]

heaven forbid someone should disagree with you. unforgivable.

I didnt realise that you were referring to write off that are scrapped only. As far as i know, not all written off cars are scrapped, some are just deemed not economic to repair.

Then, what do they do with them? Keep them at home as a memorial to the faithful service that had provided?

A great old car like that, we pin $10 to the steering wheel, showing it still has value to us :lol:

T1 Terry

 

[gdog]

Then, what do they do with them? Keep them at home as a memorial to the faithful service that had provided?

A great old car like that, we pin $10 to the steering wheel, showing it still has value to us :lol:

T1 Terry

Insurance co write them off. The worst are scrapped. Some as uneconomic to fix which may be bought and fixed up (SORNed)

 

[Paulie68]

heaven forbid someone should disagree with you. unforgivable.

I didnt realise that you were referring to write off that are scrapped only. As far as i know, not all written off cars are scrapped, some are just deemed not economic to repair.

Actually, the majority of "written off" cars, deemed not economical to repair with Cat S or N markers actually get sold on and repaired, often to eastern Europe. Copart sell thousands each week at salvage auctions all around the UK. Only the obliterated ones from severe crashes get a B marker, which requires scrap or parts use only.

 

[T1 Terry]

Actually, the majority of "written off" cars, deemed not economical to repair with Cat S or NS markers actually get sold on and repaired, often to eastern Europe. Copart sell thousands each week at salvage auctions all around the UK. Only the obliterated ones from severe crashes get a B marker, which requires scrap or parts use only.

Still confused, if they are sold outside the UK registration area for the purpose of repair because they were a financial write off, then they are not actually a Statutory Write Off but rather a repairable write off ..... have I got that part correct, so if they are on sold to be repaired, they are taxed?
What a weird system ..... we just pay GST no matter what, then if you are a commercial enterprise, you can claim that GST paid plus any further GST paid for parts or services to carry out the repair, against any future GST collected when either selling parts or on selling the whole vehicle .......

Yeah, just a different kind or weird really I guess

T1 Terry

 

[Paulie68]

Still confused, if they are sold outside the UK registration area for the purpose of repair because they were a financial write off, then they are not actually a Statutory Write Off but rather a repairable write off ..... have I got that part correct, so if they are on sold to be repaired, they are taxed?
What a weird system ..... we just pay GST no matter what, then if you are a commercial enterprise, you can claim that GST paid plus any further GST paid for parts or services to carry out the repair, against any future GST collected when either selling parts or on selling the whole vehicle .......

Yeah, just a different kind or weird really I guess

T1 Terry

Crash damaged cars that can be repaired and put back on the road in the UK get a Cat N or S marker. (N=non structural, S=structural damage) This will stay with them if repaired and put back on the road and has the effect of devaluing them by around 30% at the point of future sale. The system used to be in the event of Cat S, they needed an inspection after repair prior to road use, N didn't, but it's been a while since I was buying and repairing them, so it may have changed now.

As for cars that are exported, they will disappear entirely from the UK database once exported, as if they no longer exist. As to whether or not someone in their new home can see they were previously Cat marker declared in the UK previous to the new registration abroad, I have no idea.

Still confused, if they are sold outside the UK registration area for the purpose of repair because they were a financial write off, then they are not actually a Statutory Write Off but rather a repairable write off ..... have I got that part correct, so if they are on sold to be repaired, they are taxed?
What a weird system ..... we just pay GST no matter what, then if you are a commercial enterprise, you can claim that GST paid plus any further GST paid for parts or services to carry out the repair, against any future GST collected when either selling parts or on selling the whole vehicle .......

Yeah, just a different kind or weird really I guess

T1 Terry

Hey Terry, Do you have a blog anywhere for the Kombi conversion?, I'd be interested to see it.

 

[siteguru]

I didnt realise that you were referring to write off that are scrapped only. As far as i know, not all written off cars are scrapped, some are just deemed not economic to repair.

So you're saying you didn't actually read my post #23, even though you quoted that very part of it in your reply #25?

 

[T1 Terry]

Crash damaged cars that can be repaired and put back on the road in the UK get a Cat N or S marker. (N=non structural, S=structural damage) This will stay with them if repaired and put back on the road and has the effect of devaluing them by around 30% at the point of future sale. The system used to be in the event of Cat S, they needed an inspection after repair prior to road use, N didn't, but it's been a while since I was buying and repairing them, so it may have changed now.

As for cars that are exported, they will disappear entirely from the UK database once exported, as if they no longer exist. As to whether or not someone in their new home can see they were previously Cat marker declared in the UK previous to the new registration abroad, I have no idea.


Hey Terry, Do you have a blog anywhere for the Kombi conversion?, I'd be interested to see it.

Conversion hasn't started yet, maybe set backs with repairs needed to our home on wheels, The 31ft Winnebago, after first out workshop burnt to the ground with our Hino motorhome inside and all the gear I had collected over the yrs for the conversion, then 15 mths later, our replacement motorhome, house and workshop with all the replacement tools and equipment I had gathered together after the workshop fire .....

Still working on the Winnie at the moment to get it ready for rego, once that is finished, might be a bit of travelling before starting on the Kombi, hopefully the new house will be built by then with a big workshop up the side of it ....

T1 Terry

 

[Everest]

so SORNed are most likely potentially repairable but not roadworthy.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. See my posts #4 and #7 on page 1

 

[MG Clive]

so SORNed are most likely potentially repairable but not roadworthy.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. See my posts #4 and #7 on page 1

Whether damaged, scrapped, or written off, these will be very low on the list of why a vehicle is sorned, the main reason for sorning is a deliberate and voluntary decision by the vehicle owner, usually to save having to pay road tax and insurance for a period of time.

The most common reason is for a classic, or show car, these are often only used in drier summer months, and usually taken off the road over winter.

In many cases, an owner may have two or three vehicles, so maybe have a nice car for summer, and use an older car over winter.

They might use a car in summer, and have to rely on an off road vehicle in winter.

They might use an EV in the summer months, and switch to a diesel in winter for longer range.

They could be a person who won't, or simply doesn't like driving when it's cold and dark, so they take it off the road.

There will obviously be other reasons I've missed, but a damaged or crashed vehicle isn't a usual, or common reason to sorn a vehicle.

 

[Everest]

And in my case, I wanted to adjust the renewal tax month to March, so SORN'd it this month and, as a bonus, saved £16.25 in the process