MGS5 safety software fault - recall level problem? (reverse after hard stop; merged)

[dicky ticker Dave]

No but the more manufacturers that could have a common problem maybe the sooner a fix can be found.

 

[Rei]

As long as the fix isn't to remove OPD.

 

[TimothyN]

Yes, one has to be careful what one wishes for.

 

[Ian Key]

OPD must be the best thing since electrons were discovered for the amount of drivers who rave about it despite running the chance that the car rolls backwards or it's not available on a full charge.
Isn't the solution to the rolling back problem is to apply the handbrake when the car has stopped.
Has anyone been brave enough to see what happens on an icy or snowy surface?

 

[Rei]

OPD is the best thing about EVs!

 

[tsedge]

Must admit I dislike OPD and wouldn't use it if I had it but in terms of safety arguments it seems to be fairly balanced:

For: OPD dramatically reduces the chances of "hit-the-wrong-pedal" accidents, which are predominantly low speed but can occur at any speed. OPD drivers can modulate their speed more smoothly and quickly than two pedal drivers.

Against: Over time OPD drivers lose the instinct to use the brake pedal in an emergency and in any case take longer to move their foot across from the accelerator in such an emergency. OPD isn't available at high SOC and this can surprise drivers. OPD can in some situations cause the car to roll backwards.

Some countries (including China) are banning it.

 

[decrep]

I certainly prefer OPD, but at 100% charge, I don't find any big hassle, if I couldn't use it I wouldn't cry.
Level 3 works just as well until stopping completely.

 

[Rei]

I find I react faster when I need to slow down. Braking starts the moment you lift your foot, even if it isn't as hard as pressing the brake.

 

[Ruislip Resident]

OPD must be the best thing since electrons were discovered for the amount of drivers who rave about it despite running the chance that the car rolls backwards or it's not available on a full charge.
Isn't the solution to the rolling back problem is to apply the handbrake when the car has stopped.
Has anyone been brave enough to see what happens on an icy or snowy surface?

In ICY or snowy weather I dont use OPD and in fact have KERS ( regen ) at the lowest setting.

 

[TimothyN]

Some countries (including China) are banning it.

What does that mean?

Chinese made cars may not have it as an option?
Cars used on Chinese roads mustn't have it as an option?
Drivers on Chinese roads are not permitted to switch it on?

 

[MG Clive]

What does that mean?

Here's a useful article > One-pedal driving could soon be banned

 

[Rei]

Here's a useful article > One-pedal driving could soon be banned

"Starting in 2027, China’s updated national standards for electric vehicle brake systems will require that cars cannot come to a complete stop using only one-pedal drive as the factory default."

Not really a ban, it just can't be on by default from the factory.

 

[German Paddy]

OPD = Old Pensioner Driving?
I don't like it because we have an ICE car as well. I believe there is or is not some muscle memory and therefore keep my routine the same. By the way, I tried it and might just be a late developer?

 

[tsedge]

OPD must be manually selected every journey under the new Chinese rules. It is banned from being on by default.

 

[Rei]

OPD must be manually selected every journey under the new Chinese rules. It is banned from being on by default.

The article is a bit unclear, it says "factory default" in some parts and "default" in others. I hope we keep the option to have it on all the time by default, that's one of the best things about this car. It disengaging in almost every other EV is really annoying.

 

[NLMGSAN]

OPD must be manually selected every journey under the new Chinese rules. It is banned from being on by default.

Which is already the case on the MG?
So far, I heard contradicting reports about OPD being the default, or being saved as preferred settings on the S5.
The MG4 does not default to OPD on, that is for sure.

 

[tsedge]

The article is a bit unclear, it says "factory default" in some parts and "default" in others. I hope we keep the option to have it on all the time by default, that's one of the best things about this car. It disengaging in almost every other EV is really annoying.

I'm not referring to that article. These are the new rules as I understand them.

 

[decrep]

OPD = Old Pensioner Driving?
I don't like it because we have an ICE car as well. I believe there is or is not some muscle memory and therefore keep my routine the same. By the way, I tried it and might just be a late developer?

I also drive both, but muscle memory is fine, the adaption from brake pedal only to OPD is instantaneous in both directions, what isn't is the indicators being on opposite side of the wheel. wipers are often coming on instead of the lights.

 

[TimothyN]

I do have a moment of discomfort when I first get in on the rare occasions I charge to 100%, but it lasts a millisecond and is immediately compensated for.

I think that the human factors are overstated in the vast majority of us who have been driving ICE cars for years.

I would be concerned about a very new driver driving on OPD from the beginning and then being on 100% or moving to a car without it.