Real world range

[MG Clive]

Awesome @rokfor2000, that was indeed a victory.

 

[LenEV2016]

Sorry for the radio silence, my figures from last week are overdue, it’s been a manic week.

After getting 2.8 on my way south with the heating on. I was planning to do the same with the return journey. But the plans changed. This is a story of a 58% gamble...

I stared at the dashboard: 58% battery. Stated range: 224 miles. The journey home? 188 miles (145 of them on the motorway). I decided to make it home without charging ... and boy it turned out to be an adventure!

I set off on a journey with outside temp of 13 C, my cab temp set to 22 C and in an Eco mode. All was good at the beginning. I entered the motorway with 145 miles to go and the range of 203 (58 miles safety net). Shown consumption 3.4. Man I felt optimistic at that point!!!

But here is where the fun began, I hit 70mph and the car started gulping those miles like crazy, by the time I was in Birmingham, my safety net has dropped to 30 and the efficiency plummeted to 3.0 mi/kWh. The way things were going I realised something had to be done to arrive home without issues. Even the Birmingham, the "standstill city" decided to mock me... I flew past the it, bleeding energy with every mile. I had to cut down the Amperes... heating was the 1st system to go...

40 miles to go... my reserve shrunk to only 9 miles (displayed range 49). It was time for desperate measures. I've set myself in a slipstream (fully safe and legal of course) of a van doing 60mph and switched to super ECO. The screens have gone dark, podcast went silent temperature dropped. It was just me against the elements and the motorway. I was NOT going to fail.

VICTORY! And with the perfect timing, I didn't head straight home. I bravely went to pick up my daughter from her dancing classes!!! I have arrived home ... well have a look at the picture:

P.S. I managed to squeeze 3.6 mi/kWh on the return.

That's a good effort but that car is no lover of motorway speeds/journeys; 13°C is mild also. I could only imagine what it may have been like with the daytime temps we've had over the last week, of +1/+2°. My morning commute had -2° as it's warmest this last week.

 

[NikLiverpool]

Sorry for the radio silence, my figures from last week are overdue, it’s been a manic week.

After getting 2.8 on my way south with the heating on. I was planning to do the same with the return journey. But the plans changed. This is a story of a 58% gamble...

I stared at the dashboard: 58% battery. Stated range: 224 miles. The journey home? 188 miles (145 of them on the motorway). I decided to make it home without charging ... and boy it turned out to be an adventure!

I set off on a journey with outside temp of 13 C, my cab temp set to 22 C and in an Eco mode. All was good at the beginning. I entered the motorway with 145 miles to go and the range of 203 (58 miles safety net). Shown consumption 3.4. Man I felt optimistic at that point!!!

But here is where the fun began, I hit 70mph and the car started gulping those miles like crazy, by the time I was in Birmingham, my safety net has dropped to 30 and the efficiency plummeted to 3.0 mi/kWh. The way things were going I realised something had to be done to arrive home without issues. Even the Birmingham, the "standstill city" decided to mock me... I flew past the it, bleeding energy with every mile. I had to cut down the Amperes... heating was the 1st system to go...

40 miles to go... my reserve shrunk to only 9 miles (displayed range 49). It was time for desperate measures. I've set myself in a slipstream (fully safe and legal of course) of a van doing 60mph and switched to super ECO. The screens have gone dark, podcast went silent temperature dropped. It was just me against the elements and the motorway. I was NOT going to fail.

VICTORY! And with the perfect timing, I didn't head straight home. I bravely went to pick up my daughter from her dancing classes!!! I have arrived home ... well have a look at the picture:

P.S. I managed to squeeze 3.6 mi/kWh on the return.

Squeaky bum time lol.
You are far braver than me, I would have stopped for a quick top up.

 

[rokfor2000]

You are far braver than me, I would have stopped for a quick top up.

Everything in the name of science

I could only imagine what it may have been like with the daytime temps we've had over the last week of +1/+2° my morning commute had -2° as it's warmest this last week

Don't need to imagine, I can tell you exactly

This week, I left the house at -2° and arrived 138.6 miles and 2h 8 min later at 2°. Of that 136 miles was motorway. Average speed 65 miles/h (below 70mph only in Birmingham) in Eco mode. Started with a pre-heated car. Temp set to 22° C, steering heating on for most of the time.

Starting charge 100%, arrived with 50%, consumption 2.7 mi/h. Surprisingly came out exactly the same as the same motorway stretch at ~10° C a week earlier .

 

[LenEV2016]

Everything in the name of science



Don't need to imagine, I can tell you exactly

This week, I left the house at -2° and arrived 138.6 miles and 2h 8 min later at 2°. Of that 136 miles was motorway. Average speed 65 miles/h (below 70mph only in Birmingham) in Eco mode. Started with a pre-heated car. Temp set to 22° C, steering heating on for most of the time.

Starting charge 100%, arrived with 50%, consumption 2.7 mi/h. Surprisingly came out exactly the same as the same motorway stretch at ~10° C a week earlier .

Heat pump did its job then, 277 miles range if you'd kept going to 0 (roughly)

 

[NikLiverpool]

270 miles (let's say 250 for a bit of breathing space) under these conditions on motorway is not bad considering.
I would be happy with this.

 

[MikeJS]

Great report. It does beg the question that why did you not simply drive slower?

 

[rokfor2000]

Great report. It does beg the question that why did you not simply drive slower?

Great question ... I did ... later.

I wanted to push the car a bit and test it around its limits to learn it a bit better. I also thought that I'd recover some efficiency around bigger cities as I always do, but not on this occasion.

Another thing is that TBH I didn't think I was going to make it. If I had to charged, there was no point saving. But after half the distance I thought it was still possible if I readjusted.

 

[Dreamer]

Not expecting to get the manufacturers figures, just something in the same continent.
John-Cortin Fernandez post on the FB group that 'I'm getting 3 miles per kWh.'

I want a car that I do not have to stop at a charging location just to get to Cornwall. We have places that we like to stop at (and our dog likes it as well!) but they do not have chargers.

Fair enough, but look at the bright side, should you have to stop and charge then I believe 17 mins gives you a decent top-up and not like you need to be waiting around for 45min or more.

 

[LenEV2016]

Fair enough, but look at the bright side, should you have to stop and charge then I believe 17 mins gives you a decent top-up and not like you need to be waiting around for 45min or more.

Better if the car gets in the ball park of the claimed range

 

[MikeJS]

Fair enough, but look at the bright side, should you have to stop and charge then I believe 17 mins gives you a decent top-up and not like you need to be waiting around for 45min or more.

Problem is that on the way to Cornwall there is no where that I would want to stop to charge…..

 

[NikLiverpool]

Resurrecting this one.
I think I managed to find the optimum settings for 'fuel' efficiency that suit my driving style at least.
So far I was using ECO and was getting 2 to 2.2 miles per kw. Recently I started de-activated the regen mode and that improved the figures up to 2.2 to 2.5 miles per kw.
Annoying though that I had to de-activate the regen every time I went in the car.

So I now have Custom mode on shortcut. All settings from ECO, it can have zero regen as pre-set and have the air suspension as low as it gets.
Started seeing 2.4 to 2.7 miles per kw.

All these are with AC set at 21 oC and both steering wheel and driver's seat heating on. I like my comforts

 

[Skalamanga]

I assume people have seen this?

 

[LenEV2016]

I assume people have seen this?

Yeah it's posted somewhere already, the boy is a hypermiler

Impressive range but he wasnt going anywhere near the speed limit on the motorway (doing about 50/55)

It's great that the car can get those figures but who wants to drive that slow, each to their own but I actually think your being inconsiderate to other road users

 

[Skalamanga]

Yeah it's posted somewhere already, the boy is a hypermiler

Impressive range but he wants going anywhere near the speed limit on the motorway ( doing about 50/55)

It's great that the car can get those figures but who wants to drive that slow, each to their own but I actually think your being inconsiderate to other road users

in my experience, my current polestar 2 can achieve wltp at 60 on the motorway. I just stay in the inside lane with all the other vehicles that are limited to 60, so theres nothing inconsiderate about it.

 

[LenEV2016]

in my experience, my current polestar 2 can achieve wltp at 60 on the motorway. I just stay in the inside lane with all the other vehicles that are limited to 60, so theres nothing inconsiderate about it.

Huge difference between 50 and 60 on motorway/dual carriageway.
50 will force trucks buses etc to do pretty slow overtakes, thus backing up traffic in the outside lane, which is inconsiderate and causes frustration.

No issues with 60/65 as larger vehicles won't need to overtake

 

[Skalamanga]

Huge difference between 50 and 60 on motorway/dual carriageway.
50 will force trucks buses etc to do pretty slow overtakes, thus backing up traffic in the outside lane, which is inconsiderate and causes frustration.

No issues with 60/65 as larger vehicles won't need to overtake

responses in the thread say kevin found 60mph to be the sweet spot for motorway driving.

 

[LenEV2016]

responses in the thread say kevin found 60mph to be the sweet spot for motorway driving.

There were answers saying otherwise and the time it took him speaks to a slower average speed.
Also he stopped the clock on his stops and he still took a couple of hours longer than Google maps predicts (which is always on the conservative side).

Each to their but when I bought my first EV I decided to drive exactly as I did in my previous ice cars, everybody mandating routinely driving 10/15 miles an hour below the speed limit just adds fuel to the anti EV idiots.