Warranty vs Mileage vs Battery

gazter said:
With no mechanical understanding of how the batteries are accessed in the mg5, is the process designed to be easily done? It sounds like something beyond the skills of a fitter at a dealer.
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At the moment, most dealers are incapable of this and/or would charge you extortionate prices to try & fix it.

Specialist EV garages do this all the time, experts like Cleevely Autos do battery or cell replacements in a day, growing numbers of classic car conversions are done with ex Tesla & Nissan batteries. Cleevely actually use MG5s too.

There are plenty of youtube videos of these specialists doing the repairs / conversions and companies manufacturing the bits to do it. Even DIYers!!!

Legacy dealers are still stuck in cheap labour high profit oil & filter changes. That industry will be gone on a few years.
 
The battery pack is mounted under the floor and once disconnected drops out downwards.

The voltages present means this should only be attempted by specifically trained personnel, the weight means proper lifting equipment should be used. This is the 1st hit for ev battery lifting equipment (not cheap):

Electric Vehicle Battery Lifter

The main big need is a 4 post lift, jacking up onto axle stands is not going to be safe. Manufacturers and importers are providing EV training for dealer workshops and I believe some technical colleges are running the courses which should make them open to non franchise technicians.
 
Hairyfool said:
The battery pack is mounted under the floor and once disconnected drops out downwards.

The voltages present means this should only be attempted by specifically trained personnel, the weight means proper lifting equipment should be used. This is the 1st hit for ev battery lifting equipment (not cheap):

Electric Vehicle Battery Lifter

The main big need is a 4 post lift, jacking up onto axle stands is not going to be safe. Manufacturers and importers are providing EV training for dealer workshops and I believe some technical colleges are running the courses which should make them open to non franchise technicians.
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That's not expensive compared with the kit garages already need.
 
EVsince2016 said:
At the moment, most dealers are incapable of this and/or would charge you extortionate prices to try & fix it.

Specialist EV garages do this all the time, experts like Cleevely Autos do battery or cell replacements in a day, growing numbers of classic car conversions are done with ex Tesla & Nissan batteries. Cleevely actually use MG5s too.

There are plenty of youtube videos of these specialists doing the repairs / conversions and companies manufacturing the bits to do it. Even DIYers!!!

Legacy dealers are still stuck in cheap labour high profit oil & filter changes. That industry will be gone on a few years.
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Yes, the smart mechanics will be thinking about how to capture the market. Older vehicles are their bread and butter, a surprising amount of people service cars in warranty via the dealer. Once we start getting volumes of old EVs the process will become more common.
 
The idea is that dealers could extract failed cells and replace them from a recovered pack but will they be available?

Nissan/Eaton have introduced XStorage which uses batteries to store power in the home. The prices are no better than reasonable in the market until you realise that they are re-using reclaimed EV batteries. So at around £3000 for a 4KW system a written off 40KWh Leaf could generate £30,000 of business. That is really going to skew the insurance market as that is more than the current cost of a new Leaf!
 
Kithmo said:
5 minutes using relay theft. :sneaky:
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Ouch.. So painfully true. I swear they should give you a faraday pouch with the keys and explain how to protect yourself.

My mum had a first st-line as a hire car when she last flew down, I have thieves on cctv trying to relay thieve it off the drive, they gave up rather than breaking into the house because I made her put the keys in a faraday box
 
I don't carry the Faraday thing round with me but I also don't keep the car key in my pocket as I have a habit of setting off alarms or opening windows unintentionally. Nor do I like having loads of rarely used keys in my pocket (I can't be bothered carrying them round, plus if I lost my keys it's one less to worry about) - and it's the expensive one!).

So I have a pouch on top of the fridge where I keep my car key when not in use. it also means I know where I left it! Haven't yet been able to train the missus to do the same with her Yaris key.
 
I bought a faraday pouch online. It worked for a while then stopped working so beware!
 
EVsince2016 said:
I bought a faraday pouch online. It worked for a while then stopped working so beware!
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Some do wear out when the metallic lining gets tatty.
I do check periodically that the bag is still working by taking it to the car.
I have my daily key in one and my spare key in another one.
 
Petriix said:
Any metal tin will do a better job. A second layer of tinfoil makes it doubly good.
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I like my Faraday pouches. They have two pockets, 1 blocked, 1 unblocked. Pick up pouch in the house, swap the keys from blocked to unblocked, put pouch in pocket, go to car and press button.
Easy peasy, reverse procedure when leaving car. One like this.

Amazon product ASIN B07R9ZHV97
 
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Gomev said:
I like my Faraday pouches. They have two pockets, 1 blocked, 1 unblocked. Pick up pouch in the house, swap the keys from blocked to unblocked, put pouch in pocket, go to car and press button.
Easy peasy, reverse procedure when leaving car. One like this.

Amazon product ASIN B07R9ZHV97
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I've got a near identical set of those from Amazon - keep keys in them in the hall and take out of pouch & into pocket when heading to the car. Tested it at the car and unlock button on car does nothing when key in the pouch
 
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