Yoke steering wheel

[SunriseJak]

Then I'm glad I'm just in time .
It's strange that the Lexus is now also coming out with a Yoke steering wheel

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Lexus RZ

Yes, but the Lexus is steer by wire like the Cybertruck. Meaning lock to lock is just over 180 degrees and not 2 and 1/2 full rotations like in a standard mechanical system.

Yes, but the Lexus is steer by wire like the Cybertruck. Meaning lock to lock is just over 180 degrees and not 2 and 1/2 full rotations like in a standard mechanical system.

What I meant is 180 each direction. The Lexus is only 300 degrees full lock to lock both directions. It's also speed sensitive and programmable. So very little hand over hand movements needed.

 

[Paulie68]

What I meant is 180 each direction. The Lexus is only 300 degrees full lock to lock both directions. It's also speed sensitive and programmable. So very little hand over hand movements needed.

Presumably they're only banning the yolk for multi-turn systems, which is the right decision if so.

 

[4Rens]

Correct! This system is called "Steer by Wire," which the Cyberster doesn't have.
But personally I don't steer less because of it

 

[SunriseJak]

Correct! This system is called "Steer by Wire," which the Cyberster doesn't have.
But personally I don't steer less because of it

Reading more in the media the yoke issues revolve around air bag deployment. With the top and bottom portions of the steering wheel missing the airbag may not be as functional and even dangerous. Test methods are not possible with the yoke design. It seems now to be a safety issue and not a physical operation issue.

 

[SunriseJak]

This reported by InsidEVs and also describes the inability to test as the new standards require "rim impact test points" which yokes don't have.

 

[salty]

The bottom portion of the steering wheel, isn't missing. Why is the Yoke steering wheel, bothering folk. If you want one get one, if you don't, don't.

 

[SunriseJak]

In this case it's not about "folks" liking it disliking. It's about Chinese proposed regulations. Not sure how valid their reasoning is. I'm just the messenger.

 

[salty]

Appreciate that. But my point is. Those that have fitted Yokes are obviously not bothered, about proposed regs or they are a bit more awkward to drive etc. They just like um.

 

[SunriseJak]

Yes. It's indeed a personal choice. I suggest searching and reading a summary titled "Yokes over, say Chinese lawmakers". It describes their rationale. I just find the decision interesting and pertinent to our discussions.

 

[tsedge]

The proposed Chinese ban on yokes has nothing to do with their steering abilities - or lack of variable ratios.

It is all about driver safety in impact situations: they have regulations coming in requiring impact testing at 10 points around the "wheel", which obviously doesn't work well with a yoke which is missing some of the 10 points completely!

This is down to the way they've drafted the other changes. It might be possible for a yoke to still comply, but it would take an out-of-the-box solution, such as additional air bags or something.

Happily, the wheels will still be able to be aftermarket replaced in markets where yokes are legal.

 

[SunriseJak]

The proposed Chinese ban on yokes has nothing to do with their steering abilities - or lack of variable ratios.

It is all about driver safety in impact situations: they have regulations coming in requiring impact testing at 10 points around the "wheel", which obviously doesn't work well with a yoke which is missing some of the 10 points completely!

This is down to the way they've drafted the other changes. It might be possible for a yoke to still comply, but it would take an out-of-the-box solution, such as additional air bags or something.

Happily, the wheels will still be able to be aftermarket replaced in markets where yokes are legal.

Thanks for the well done summary. Early reports were all over the place with various suppositions. This is quite clear.