MG ZS EV Shipping Updates

[MichaelJHunt]

The parts missing must be very minor and not affect the ability to drive - how would you deliver the car to the dealer part built - loading on and off ship for instance.

I know a number of people at work with Teslas and a number of them have reported poor build quality. One had the indicator stalk fall off and was hanging down by wires on day one after delivery. Maybe part build is the reason?

I suppose that if they are shipping cars without components they cannot do the final checks where they plug the car into a test bed that performs a full check. Therefore testing is incomplete and the dealer will not have the test bed and therefore cars get handed over to the user with faults.

Things like missing cameras, HUD and entertainment systems that don’t work, the technology based systems of the car.

 

[Nutnut]

[...]To part build would add considerable cost and question any profitability? [...]

As has been said many times, we knew they were doing this back at the beginning of the year. The question is whether the build date includes final fitting of the head unit, or just when the main part of the car was assembled. I would presume the latter once the car is fully fitted, but I may be incorrect.

 

[bmacrow]

The parts missing must be very minor and not affect the ability to drive - how would you deliver the car to the dealer part built - loading on and off ship for instance.

I know a number of people at work with Teslas and a number of them have reported poor build quality. One had the indicator stalk fall off and was hanging down by wires on day one after delivery. Maybe part build is the reason?

I suppose that if they are shipping cars without components they cannot do the final checks where they plug the car into a test bed that performs a full check. Therefore testing is incomplete and the dealer will not have the test bed and therefore cars get handed over to the user with faults.

Tesla are actually getting quite known for shoddy workmanship, even without the parts issue. From what I read currently all model 3 and ys are being delivered without the 2nd steering wheel ECU, this means that until that chip is fitted they cannot have the Full self Drive functionality added.

 

[Nutnut]

It happening with many car manufacturers at present. They are part building and storing until parts are available. Some manufacturers are delivering cars (Tesla and Jaguar for instance), with components missing for them to be fitted later once the owner has the car.

Exactly this. And cursory check will throw up reports of some manufacturers getting rid of certain features altogether, as with the Ionic 5. It's like shouting into the wind sometimes.

Tesla are actually getting quite known for shoddy workmanship, even without the parts issue. From what I read currently all model 3 and ys are being delivered without the 2nd steering wheel ECU, this means that until that chip is fitted they cannot have the Full self Drive functionality added.

The panel gaps on their cars have been a running joke for a long time. I wasn't impressed with the interior personally, especially not at that price point. Although give the devil their due, it has improved. What they do have going for them is the charging network & the technology.

And here is the podcast where it's noted that SAIC have bought 2 ships to tackle the transport issue:

 

[ThatLeafGuy]

Tesla are actually getting quite known for shoddy workmanship, even without the parts issue. From what I read currently all model 3 and ys are being delivered without the 2nd steering wheel ECU, this means that until that chip is fitted they cannot have the Full self Drive functionality added.

Not all, only in China, where FSD take rate is something like 4%. Don't believe everything you read especially in mainstream media or from motoring journalists. Let's just say they know where their advertising money is coming from. Tesla build quality from Shangai is actually very good, from Fremont it's not great, Texas is better than Fremont and Berlin is supposed to be roughly on par with Shanghai. All new Tesla's in Europe (barring S and X) now come from Shanghai.
Except the odd one here and there from Berlin (EU only).

 

[Ash]

Anyone heard anything from Vanarama

I called up chasing them for an update and the "delivery team" had finished up for today but was told they are in their final conversations with MG

 

[Nutnut]

Anyone heard anything from Vanarama

I called up chasing them for an update and the "delivery team" had finished up for today but was told they are in their final conversations with MG

Today's vanarama update text:

"Just a quick message to let you know the management team at Vanarama will be in direct contact with MG. So once we have the information on when we are likely to see these vehicles, we will be getting in touch with you ASAP. We will be advising the September date until the update comes in but this date could move past September."

 

[Ukchris]

As a Newby to the MG Forum, can anyone say what the typical wait time is at the moment ???

The 12th or never!

 

[davedj79]

What I really don't get is why some dealers are quoting delivery times and some like mine (Tunbridge Wells MG) have absolutely nothing. No indication whatsoever. I've pushed for more info to them and MG and just can't get anything out of them.

Either other dealers are being prioritised, lying or my dealer is prioritising higher paying newer orders.

 

[Bodgerx]

Anyone heard anything from Vanarama

I called up chasing them for an update and the "delivery team" had finished up for today but was told they are in their final conversations with MG

Even if you heard something it wouldn't be based on anything. The standard line from MG is TBA unless your car is built and on its way...

 

[Bodgerx]

What I really don't get is why some dealers are quoting delivery times and some like mine (Tunbridge Wells MG) have absolutely nothing. No indication whatsoever. I've pushed for more info to them and MG and just can't get anything out of them.

Either other dealers are being prioritised, lying or my dealer is prioritising higher paying newer orders.

Because your dealer likes to give the customer the truth rather than giving the customer what they want i.e. a date, which is a guess.

 

[JSAND59]

What I really don't get is why some dealers are quoting delivery times and some like mine (Tunbridge Wells MG) have absolutely nothing. No indication whatsoever. I've pushed for more info to them and MG and just can't get anything out of them.

Either other dealers are being prioritised, lying or my dealer is prioritising higher paying newer orders.

If you read back through previous posts you will see nothing makes any sense.

Many of us have tried to understand the process from order to manufacture to delivery and we have all failed.

Agree with your theory that some large dealers are treated very differently to others. Ask your dealer if they have stock orders - the preferred large dealers do.

 

[Babylon]

Was looking on New-Car-Discount to see whats about and noticed they have the LR and they say Limited Availability with cars due October.

 

[am84]

I doubt being a lease company or dealership should make a difference on priority, The cars are getting bought from someone so should be first come first serve. Say the likes of vanarma has 400 orders. That’s a pretty big order . They don’t seem to be getting anything for delivery.

 

[ricardoellis]

I think us giving them any credit to acknowledge lease/private order is probably too much credit.

 

[Rockjaw]

I ordered my Trophy Connect LR at the beginning of November 2021.
I picked it up on 4th July!
Richmond Portsmouth were my dealer.
Because I raised some pertinent questions with MG regarding pricing and availability, they (MG) 'found' me a car to the EXACT specification - correct colour etc. - on a ship that was docking on 14th June in Bristol!
I could ask the question 'why do you have spare cars on the ship?
What is very interesting , well to me is, there was a build sheet in the glove box relating to my car, correct VIN etc. that has a build date of 25th Feb 2022!
Question if SAIC build in batches why wasn't this and others in the batch shipped before now! March, April, May and half of June is WAY longer than is needed to transport from China to UK. Cars were being loaded on to ships during that time even during their lockdown.

By the way it is not all love and roses as the car was handed over to me with a Sat Nav which didn't work, the PDI should show up things like this.
A 6 hour stint at the dealers sort of cured this.
Now, it seems after a DC charge, the Sat Nav 'forgets' the route after 10 mins of driving! Very user friendly, NOT!
The radio on certain DAB channels has its volume controlled by the throttle and brake!

A lot of software re-writes are needed, so maybe by the time your cars arrive that will be sorted?
My sister's pickup time for her new Skoda Enyaq was delayed by an hour because the dealer hadn't finished all the latest downloads for the car! Well done that Skoda dealer in Epsom for checking for the latest updates before delivery.

hundreds were built before the lockdown in China but were waiting for the semi-Conductors to be fitted.

 

[JSAND59]

I doubt being a lease company or dealership should make a difference on priority, The cars are getting bought from someone so should be first come first serve. Say the likes of vanarma has 400 orders. That’s a pretty big order . They don’t seem to be getting anything for delivery.

MG UK claim that they are treating all orders equally based upon the order date and the earliest order gets priority.

MG UK told me that dealers who have stock arriving will have ordered before me. Stock was supposed to have been cancelled and fines introduced but this does not appear to be happening for the big dealers. We have seen members of this forum getting new cars with only a few days waiting time because selected dealers are getting stock cars.

I understand that the dealers however do have a choice and when the stock car arrives they could put someone in the queue into the car or sell it to a new person.

This is where I believe the dealer has a dilemma. Do they sell to a new buyer and make a good margin, do they sell to a private buyer who is in the queue - old list price so less margin, or do they sell to a lease company like Vanarama who is in the queue who have negotiated a big discount.

The dealer can currently sell every car they get within hours. It is not difficult to work out what they are doing.

The lease car buyer is in a queue and unfortunately I believe that the dealer makes so little margin that they do not need to prioritise. My view is that they would prefer that you cancel so that when your actual car arrives they can sell it to someone else for more.

We have been told that they are still supplying cars for ordered in November/December last year.

I was told by MG UK that I should contact my dealer towards the end of August when they anticipate they may have some news on my car that was ordered at the beginning of January.
Based upon this I am hopeful that the car could arrive by the end of the year - although I am not holding my breath.

My dealer is a very small family run dealer and has received no stock orders and still has orders dating back to last year that have not yet arrived.

 

[am84]

Just received this fro mg Uk.
MG orders placed in March there is an estimated lead time of 8 to 9 months, however, this is subject to change due to various factors in the motor industry. It is best to stay updated with your purchasing MG dealer for delivery updates.



Many thanks,

 

[JSAND59]

Just received this fro mg Uk.
MG orders placed in March there is an estimated lead time of 8 to 9 months, however, this is subject to change due to various factors in the motor industry. It is best to stay updated with your purchasing MG dealer for delivery updates.



Many thanks,

My responses from MG UK for delivery dates.

14th June message from MG UK:-
for MG orders that were placed in January the estimated lead time would be 8 months, but subject to change, which could be even sooner once the production has commenced.

5th July message from MG UK:-
Current lead time is 8-9 months from the order date, however, please be advised that the ETA is subject to change, depending on a number of factors, including but not limited to shortage of semi-conductors, logistic challenge, etc.


We know that the MG UK lead times advised are just playing lip service to us - they really do not have a clue as far as I am concerned.

There are 4 things we can do :-
Option 1 - Complain to the dealer- the big dealers could possibly help by allocating one of their stock cars to you - may have to stamp your feet hard for this and maybe offer a bit more cash incentive. The small dealer could also speak to the MG area manager who could possibly push things if you have been waiting longer than anyone else but do not hold out too much hope.

Option 2 - Complain to MG UK - They Will send you a response but you won’t get much out of them. Waste of time in my experience.

Option 3 - Get fed up and cancel order.

Option 4 - My option is to pretend that I never ordered the car and one day my dealer will call to say the car is ready to collect.

 

[DK1083]

Quick update to state that sadly I’ve cancelled my order. Having had the ETA for my Jan order shift from Apr to Sep (and with plenty from Nov/Dec still waiting) I’ve given up. Had MG just been honest and realistic with their ETAs, this could have been avoided. But in Jan, an Apr delivery was never feasible.

For those pending Vanarama orders, apparently they did receive a small batch of ZSs (first lot) which was unexpected and are hoping they are now coming on board.

Best of luck, I’m hoping to join the MG club in a couple of years with the 4 so you’ll see me around in that thread!

Sorry you have decided to cancel. I’ve been close myself having ordered with Vanarama in November but for the fact I would have to pay for the “free” charge point. Your comment about an early delivery of a small number of vehicles is interesting as in February I was given a date in April only for it to be cancelled with no explanation. I’m hanging on in hope it might appear soon.