Camping.

My 2023 MG 4 with 1980 Poletta.

 

[Harry 17]

That is so cute! Looks like there is more room in the car from those pics

I seem to be doing this a lot lately, but forgive my ignorance, can the MG4 actually tow? And if so, at what maximum payload?

Thanks

 

[Ian Key]

That is so cute! Looks like there is more room in the car from those pics

I seem to be doing this a lot lately, but forgive my ignorance, can the MG4 actually tow? And if so, at what maximum payload?

Thanks

Max tow weight 500kg with a max nose weight of 50kg

 

[Harry 17]

Max tow weight 500kg with a max nose weight of 50kg

TVM

 

[werner ostby]

That is so cute! Looks like there is more room in the car from those pics

I seem to be doing this a lot lately, but forgive my ignorance, can the MG4 actually tow? And if so, at what maximum payload?

 

[Rolfe]

I still reckon one person (who isn't too tall) could easily sleep in the car itself, on an airbed. There is 1.8 metres (six feet) from the back of the front seat to the tailgate, when the seat is as far forward as possible, and you still have space at the side of a single airbed for other stuff.

The only snag is that if you want to keep the heating or aircon on (and you probably do, to stop the inside of the windows fogging up if for no other reason), the DRLs will stay on. They could be covered up though.

 

[werner ostby]

500 kg in total, same as 1980 Poletta.

 

[tsedge]

Bear in mind that if towing something substantial (large trailer, caravan), EVs typically lose half their range due to the aerodynamic inefficiencies - slow driving is in order.

 

[werner ostby]

I still reckon one person (who isn't too tall) could easily sleep in the car itself, on an airbed. There is 1.8 metres (six feet) from the back of the front seat to the tailgate, when the seat is as far forward as possible, and you still have space at the side of a single airbed for other stuff.

The only snag is that if you want to keep the heating or aircon on (and you probably do, to stop the inside of the windows fogging up if for no other reason), the DRLs will stay on. They could be covered up though.

Here is the size:

 

[werner ostby]

Bear in mind that if towing something substantial (large trailer, caravan), EVs typically lose half their range due to the aerodynamic inefficiencies - slow driving is in order.

I use ca 25% extra power.

 

[tsedge]

I use ca 25% extra power.

That's good. Size of caravan will make a difference as well as driving style.

Here's an example with a large one:

 

[DeMille]

Bear in mind that if towing something substantial (large trailer, caravan), EVs typically lose half their range due to the aerodynamic inefficiencies - slow driving is in order.

As do most other cars pulling a caravan. 1/3 at least. This is not typical EV. I go from 6l/100km to 9L/ 100km pulling 1500kg, even 10l-12l in the mountains. An Ev loads his batteries coming down. It is about the same range most European EV lose in winter because they do not have a heatpump in standard configuration and is a too expensive option.

 

[tsedge]

As do most other cars pulling a caravan. 1/3 at least. This is not typical EV. I go from 6l/100km to 9L/ 100km pulling 1500kg, even 10l-12l in the mountains. An Ev loads his batteries coming down. It is about the same range most European EV lose in winter because they do not have a heatpump in standard configuration and is a too expensive option.

Loss of range in winter is not mostly down to heatpumps but reduced range from the batteries due to the lower temperature. They can be warmed up on longer journeys but this also costs energy.

The reports I have heard are that EVs lose more range towing than ICE cars (proportionately). It will obviously vary with what is being towed and how it is driven.

 

[DeMille]

Loss of range in winter is not mostly down to heatpumps but reduced range from the batteries due to the lower temperature. They can be warmed up on longer journeys but this also costs energy.

It does, the EV must use resistance heat to warm the car and batteries if no heat pump. This drains the battery. The same EV with or without a heat ump, it makes a huge difference in range, Battery preheating for DC charging without a heatpump?

 

[Deleted member 10041]

The stuff I have read on heat pumps all states like for like models with and without a heat pump will have about 9-12% more range, so about an extra 20 miles if you are getting 200 miles winter range.

 

[tsedge]

The stuff I have read on heat pumps all states like for like models with and without a heat pump will have about 9-12% more range, so about an extra 20 miles if you are getting 200 miles winter range.

I have seen similar. It is a factor but not the dominant effect in winter or when towing.