EV tariff increases the daily tariff !

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Obviously all you who have EV tariffs will already know this, but I'm not on one, and I've only just discovered this today.

It'll be different for different suppliers, but if you switch to an EV tariff, yes you get a good rate between 11pm and 5am (or whatever), but it looks as if your normal daily tariff goes up by 4 or 5 pence per unit.

So, and I haven't worked any figures out, but if you only do low mileage, you could end up paying more with an EV tariff, because the saving you make on the low EV tariff will be cancelled out by what you use through the rest of the day.

That's how they get you ! :cautious:
 
I think most of the people who have these tariffs also have home batteries. I don't care a button what price ticket they put on the daytime use, because I hardly ever use any.
Home batteries would certainly be an answer, but to think most people on an EV tariff have them, really surprises me.
 
I don't think most people on an EV tariff have a home battery system. The desirability of an EV tariff centres on the ratio of night/day use. Octopus conveniently shows you the average cost per unit on the monthly bill so you can easily do a comparison with their standard variable rate tariff. It has always worked out cheaper overall for me to stay on Octopus Go.
 
I don't think most would have a home battery, I haven't. Just looked at my latest Octopus bill and I paid an average of 15.75p per unit including VAT. I only do about 6000 miles a year, so not lots of charging, but I always try and have a shower and do washing in the cheap period.
 
Obviously all you who have EV tariffs will already know this, but I'm not on one, and I've only just discovered this today.

It'll be different for different suppliers, but if you switch to an EV tariff, yes you get a good rate between 11pm and 5am (or whatever), but it looks as if your normal daily tariff goes up by 4 or 5 pence per unit.

So, and I haven't worked any figures out, but if you only do low mileage, you could end up paying more with an EV tariff, because the saving you make on the low EV tariff will be cancelled out by what you use through the rest of the day.

That's how they get you ! :cautious:

You're right it is how they try to get you but there's a way round it for some at least. That is if you can, you schedule high energy use for the cheaper periods.
Most large domestic appliances come with timers so you make use of them. Set the washing machine, dishwasher, tumble dryer etc to run during the cheaper hours.
In the same way moving to EV needs a change in thinking, so does moving to an EV tariff. I used to do my washing at the weekend, just out of habit Saturday was wash day. Now I do a load as I get enough washing for one, might be 2 or 3 times a week.
 
Not only do they get you on the day rate for each kWh on the average EV tariff, but also the daily standing charge.
On EON Next Fixed 18m v23 tariff the standing charge is 32.60p daily, whereas EON Next Drive Fixed v9 ev tariff is 48.03p daily.
It's not that easy to find the standing charge associated with each tariff, so my figures may not be exact but are illustrative.
So it's a careful balance to work out with the increased standing charge and daily rate if its going to be cheaper to swap to an ev tariff.
 
You're right it is how they try to get you but there's a way round it for some at least. That is if you can, you schedule high energy use for the cheaper periods.
Most large domestic appliances come with timers so you make use of them. Set the washing machine, dishwasher, tumble dryer etc to run during the cheaper hours.
In the same way moving to EV needs a change in thinking, so does moving to an EV tariff. I used to do my washing at the weekend, just out of habit Saturday was wash day. Now I do a load as I get enough washing for one, might be 2 or 3 times a week.
This !!!

It really helped getting an EV in overall cost in an all electric house and the modern storage heaters also great. Car, dishwasher, washing machine, immersion heater, storage heaters. I’d be pulling about 70amps for a decent length of time. The only one I’d really avoid if you aren’t about is the dryer for “safety”. If you want to save on that grab a heat pump dryer.
 
Obviously all you who have EV tariffs will already know this, but I'm not on one, and I've only just discovered this today.

It'll be different for different suppliers, but if you switch to an EV tariff, yes you get a good rate between 11pm and 5am (or whatever), but it looks as if your normal daily tariff goes up by 4 or 5 pence per unit.

So, and I haven't worked any figures out, but if you only do low mileage, you could end up paying more with an EV tariff, because the saving you make on the low EV tariff will be cancelled out by what you use through the rest of the day.

That's how they get you ! :cautious:
If you know your home usage and how much you put in the car then I did share a spreadsheet where you simply put in those numbers along with the rates and standing charges and it will show your annual costs and compare 2 different tariffs.

If interested in working out your own figures simply please see the following post

 
Thanks @Gomev, I'm not actually looking for an EV tariff myself, but my mate who only does about 2k miles explained to me that it wasn't really worth doing for him, that's why I looked into it myself. As long as I continue to get 4 to 12 hours free on Sundays, I'll stick with my normal EDF tariff.
 
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