EV tariff increases the daily tariff !

[Gadget Geek]

All EV 'chargers' have been smart for some time now. Law came into force June 2022 that all new chargers have to be. Not all of course are currently supported with some specific tariffs like IOG etc.

I got my dumb Pod-Point for free in 2019 as part of a deal with Hyundai.

 

[salty]

All EV 'chargers' have been smart for some time now. Law came into force June 2022 that all new chargers have to be. Not all of course are currently supported with some specific tariffs like IOG etc.

I got my dumb Pod-Point for free in 2019 as part of a deal with Hyundai.

Why was that made law?
What was the matter with the old dumb charger, what difference, does it make.

 

[Rolfe]

Of course you're going to charge your home battery during the off-peak period though.

 

[Everest]

Why was that made law?
What was the matter with the old dumb charger, what difference, does it make.

To clarify the point; the law was made for all fixed installation 7kW+ chargers. It does not apply to portable or granny chargers. The reason is to enable intelligent charging controlled by energy companies in order to help balance grid usage as there becomes more and more EV uptake.

 

[mystreet]

My EO mini Pro 2 lost its support back in November. They stated that due to the incoming law they could not support it. More like did not want to spend money on a new program for the Raspberry PI to control it. Lasted all of 5 years before being obsolete. But working well as a dumb charger, car controls timing. With Eon, changing to Octopus Go beginning of May.

 

[Gadget Geek]

Of course you're going to charge your home battery during the off-peak period though.

EV-Only Tariffs (Restrictive): Providers like OVO (Charge Anytime) or Scottish Power (EV Optimise) offer exceptionally low rates (e.g., 10p/kWh) that only apply to the energy sent directly to your electric car. If you charge a home battery during these times, that energy is charged at your standard, higher tariff rate. These tariffs often require a specific smart charger or app to work.

 

[johnb80]

EV-Only Tariffs (Restrictive): Providers like OVO (Charge Anytime) or Scottish Power (EV Optimise) offer exceptionally low rates (e.g., 10p/kWh) that only apply to the energy sent directly to your electric car. If you charge a home battery during these times, that energy is charged at your standard, higher tariff rate. These tariffs often require a specific smart charger or app to work.

This gets into an interesting area, the companies are charging for energy based on readings from a non calibrated / approved device which I believe is illegal.

 

[Rolfe]

EV-Only Tariffs (Restrictive): Providers like OVO (Charge Anytime) or Scottish Power (EV Optimise) offer exceptionally low rates (e.g., 10p/kWh) that only apply to the energy sent directly to your electric car. If you charge a home battery during these times, that energy is charged at your standard, higher tariff rate. These tariffs often require a specific smart charger or app to work.

Well, I didn't know that. My off-peak Octopus rate is currently 3.5p/unit, and has never been higher than 7.5p/unit, and I can use as much power as I want during that time. I charge my home battery, and run the washing machine and dishwasher. Sometimes even the tumble drier if I put the washing on a short cycle and transfer the clothes just before I go to bed.

 

[johnb80]

Well, I didn't know that. My off-peak Octopus rate is currently 3.5p/unit, and has never been higher than 7.5p/unit, and I can use as much power as I want during that time. I charge my home battery, and run the washing machine and dishwasher. Sometimes even the tumble drier if I put the washing on a short cycle and transfer the clothes just before I go to bed.

And that is still the case with Octopus. The only thing that has changed recently is that the maximum charge time for your car is 6 hours in 24. If your car had charged during peak times for say 5 hours and continued to charge for a further 3 hours during the off peak time you would be charged peak rate for 2 of the hours. I'm not sure what would happen if you disabled the smart charge option to grab some extra overnight energy.

 

[Kenp1]

We are still waiting for the 6 hour limit to come into effect on Octopus.