Merged thread: Automatic Emergency Braking activating for no reason

[ReintjeWA]

I'm surprised it's not lower since it can see the car beyond the car in front.

It just guesstimates that, it often enough “sees” a second car that’s not there, or ghostly motorcyclists.

 

[Daedalusminos]

It just guesstimates that, it often enough “sees” a second car that’s not there, or ghostly motorcyclists.

No it's not guessing, it never suggests there is one there when there isn't one present, but does (most of the time) when there is.

 

[NLMGSAN]

Yes you did!!!!!

You naughty cheeky boy...

But I'm afraid at some point you are correct.

No it's not guessing, it never suggests there is one there when there isn't one present, but does (most of the time) when there is.

Ha, you can lend mine and enjoy the fantom cars ahead of you. It also spots motorcycles when there is none.

Last week it smashed the brakes when it thought there was a lorry in front of me (clean screen, no dirt on radar). It kicked back from 100 to 65 before I got it accelerating again. On the motorway....

I will be connecting my camera again in case it becomes a standard.

 

[ReintjeWA]

No it's not guessing, it never suggests there is one there when there isn't one present, but does (most of the time) when there is.

That’s a strong, factual sounding, statement coming from someone who’s never driven my car

My MG4 sees vehicles that aren’t there all the time. Even when sitting at a public charger the other day, it identified a building’s pillars as motorcycles all around the front of the car. So yes, it’s just guess work.

It also doesn’t detect car sized trailers, which strikes me as odd seeing as it detects buildings as motorcycles.

 

[FrancisM]

In my four months of ownership I've not had an AEB incident, but I always set the sensitivity to low level when getting into the car. I cleaned the small squarish area below the bumper for the first time this week. I'd rather keep the AEB enabled but I can fully understand decision to turn it off should a incident of unwarranted braking occur.

 

[Daedalusminos]

My MG4 sees vehicles that aren’t there all the time. Even when sitting at a public charger the other day, it identified a building’s pillars as motorcycles all around the front of the car. So yes, it’s just guess work.

It also doesn’t detect car sized trailers, which strikes me as odd seeing as it detects buildings as motorcycles.

It sounds like yours may need re-calibrating, last week mine correctly identified a rabbit running across the road.

 

[ReintjeWA]

It sounds like yours may need re-calibrating, last week mine correctly identified a rabbit running across the road.

The car is barely four months old so I doubt it needs recalibrating, especially taking into account other drivers reporting guessing by the car. What is the symbol for a rabbit on the screen? Could it be a motorcycle?

 

[AndyL61]

The car is barely four months old so I doubt it needs recalibrating, especially taking into account other drivers reporting guessing by the car. What is the symbol for a rabbit on the screen? Could it be a motorcycle?

Definitely not a motorcycle, they definitely look like motorcycles. Never seen a rabbit. Could it be a hare .

 

[ReintjeWA]

Definitely not a motorcycle, they definitely look like motorcycles. Never seen a rabbit. Could it be a hare .

If it shows up as a pedestrian on the screen it could’ve been the Easter Bunny

 

[NLMGSAN]

If it shows up as a pedestrian on the screen it could’ve been the Easter Bunny

 

[Corindikev]

The car is barely four months old so I doubt it needs recalibrating, especially taking into account other drivers reporting guessing by the car. What is the symbol for a rabbit on the screen? Could it be a motorcycle?

I have the same model, 17 months old & 22,000km. I I haven't had any issues like you have described. I used to turn LKA off but leave it on all the time now. It just made me drive more accurately.

Automatic braking has worked when the car detected a pedestrian emerging from between 2 cars. The car decided they were walking in to my path but they were just going to the drivers door to get in. The car reacted before I would have but software doesn't have human intuition.

 

[ReintjeWA]

I have the same model, 17 months old & 22,000km. I I haven't had any issues like you have described. I used to turn LKA off but leave it on all the time now. It just made me drive more accurately.

Automatic braking has worked when the car detected a pedestrian emerging from between 2 cars. The car decided they were walking in to my path but they were just going to the drivers door to get in. The car reacted before I would have but software doesn't have human intuition.

Oh I leave everything on as default, I have near zero issues with LKA and the likes, I just don’t believe the car really knows what’s in front of it. It sees obstacles and guesses what they might be in my experience.

 

[Coulomb]

Oh I leave everything on as default

I'm another "no pre-flight procedure" driver. I think that the software and firmware set that comes with Australian 2024 MG4s is pretty safe and usable. It's a great shame that the set delivered in many other regions is so poor and apparently dangerous.

 

[YaR]

I'm another "no pre-flight procedure" driver. I think that the software and firmware set that comes with Australian 2024 MG4s is pretty safe and usable. It's a great shame that the set delivered in many other regions is so poor and apparently dangerous.

I believe the software and firmware is likely the same, but the issue is that the climate, sunlight and roads are very different and the system has essentially been built for an environment where roads are wide, without narrow bends, and don't have dappled shadows from trees or frequent patches of drizzle, mist and fog.

 

[ReintjeWA]

I believe the software and firmware is likely the same, but the issue is that the climate, sunlight and roads are very different and the system has essentially been built for an environment where roads are wide, without narrow bends, and don't have dappled shadows from trees or frequent patches of drizzle, mist and fog.

What makes you think we have none of those things?

 

[AndyL61]

I believe the software and firmware is likely the same, but the issue is that the climate, sunlight and roads are very different and the system has essentially been built for an environment where roads are wide, without narrow bends, and don't have dappled shadows from trees or frequent patches of drizzle, mist and fog.

Also faded and bad road markings , pot holes , open ditches and poor repairs.

 

[bedsev]

Take note MG and others.... Fiat has a physical button to turn off the assists

 

[NLMGSAN]

Normally, this means using this button the FIAT won't drive another mile....

 

[Snowy]

I don't understand why everyone is so nonchalant about this! It just happened to me (I'll remove my post, didn't see this one before!) and it's potentially incredibly dangerous. If it had happened at any higher speed than it just did for me, and there was a vehicle following behind, the chances are that they would have driven right into the back of me.

I've disabled the function now (also ludicrous that you need to do so each time, it should remember the setting) but that is wholly unacceptable IMO.

I completely agree with your post, this is such a serious issue. I have MG4 and the vehicle has done an emergency stop on several occassions on one of these it was so forceful it jolted me forward
on the A13 (extremely busy road) and I honestly don't know how the lorry behind me stopped in time there was nothing directly in front of me but the car just stopped after a amber phone showed up and within a second changed to red phone with wording "refer to handbook"
and then it cut out, the car then restarted within about 5 seconds and I was left shaking at how dangerous the situation was
I am so nervous about driving this car and avoid motorways as I have lost all confidence in the vehicle
It has gone back to MG for repairs 3 times now and on the last occassion I was told "it will do this when updates are required and apparently there were 11 updates needed" WTH
On another issue it bleeps constantly and pulls if driving in right hand lane
I am looking to change the vehicle but am worried that any electric car will have the same problems

Unfortunately this is the state of AEB across most manufacturers at the moment. They rush to add it for the NCAP points but the technology is immature.

You can switch it off.

PLEASE how do you switch this off

 

[dmsims]

Xpower is now in towing mode as it usually triggers about once a week.

ID3 we had for 3 years before did it maybe twice over the entire period

MG3 Hybrid we had as a loan car for 3 weeks - not once (and the LKA was much better)