MG IM6 information & reviews

[tonyrome]

The efficiency should be compared to other vehicles with 750hp and, then, it looks perfectly OK to me. What sort of range or economy do you get from Porsche 911 Turbo S, at four times the price? There's not much point in comparing an MG IM6 Performance/Launch Edition to diesel Berlingos or Golfs

 

[tonyrome]

Prices are also incredible when you register to a business.
LR £35K
Performance £39K
Launch Edition £43K

Brand new!

 

[LenEV2016]

The efficiency should be compared to other vehicles with 750hp and, then, it looks perfectly OK to me. What sort of range or economy do you get from Porsche 911 Turbo S, at four times the price? There's not much point in comparing an MG IM6 Performance/Launch Edition to diesel Berlingos or Golfs

It's a long range if I'm not mistaken and you can't compare it to a Porsche 911, one is an SUV and the other a sports car.
The Porsche would lose it on any technical type of road by out manorvering and out braking it

 

[tonyrome]

It's a long range if I'm not mistaken and you can't compare it to a Porsche 911, one is an SUV and the other a sports car.
The Porsche would lose it on any technical type of road by out manorvering and out braking it

It's not supposed to be a direct driving comparison! The point is that any other car with 750hp is going to be far less efficient than the MG and that's why one shouldn't get hung up about whether the MG is less efficient than a diesel Berlingo.

 

[LenEV2016]

It's not supposed to be a direct driving comparison! The point is that any other car with 750hp is going to be far less efficient than the MG and that's why one shouldn't get hung up about whether the MG is less efficient than a diesel Berlingo.

I don't think people are buying a 2.5 tonne SUV to use that 750bhp all the time, the vast majority of the time they will be going about towns (which it is looking like they will eventually get penalised for because of the weight, if our government has anything to do with it)
And for cruising on longer journeys which it has already shown it's not efficient at.
Each to their own, many will be happy with this but me personally I'd prefer a better mix off power and efficiency and the IM 6 performance/launch is clearly inefficient.

 

[tonyrome]

I don't think people are buying a 2.5 tonne SUV to use that 750bhp all the time, the vast majority of the time they will be going about towns (which it is looking like they will eventually get penalised for because of the weight, if our government has anything to do with it)
And for cruising on longer journeys which it has already shown it's not efficient at.
Each to their own, many will be happy with this but me personally I'd prefer a better mix off power and efficiency and the IM 6 performance/launch is clearly inefficient.

You are just changing the argument now! I didn't mention how the car would be used, the weight or any other factor, only that a comparison should be made with similarly powerful cars, none of which are remotely 'efficient'. There's not even a comparison between Long Range & Performance/Launch because you can't compare efficiency when one is two wheel drive and the other four wheel drive. Unfortunately, MG won't allow one to spec the Long Range with adaptive air suspension, which is a deal breaker, as far as I am concerned.

 

[tsedge]

Ok, not sure we are getting anywhere with this debate.

We know it is heavy, we know it is not that efficient, we know it is great value, we know it has some compromises and won't suit everybody, we know it has a boatload of performance, we know it is huge and yet not all that practical.

Let the sales figures speak for themselves... that way we'll find out how well it does.

 

[LenEV2016]

Ok, not sure we are getting anywhere with this debate.

We know it is heavy, we know it is not that efficient, we know it is great value, we know it has some compromises and won't suit everybody, we know it has a boatload of performance, we know it is huge and yet not all that practical.

Let the sales figures speak for themselves... that way we'll find out how well it does.

I agree my point was compare it to something similar not a sports car

 

[tsedge]

I agree my point was compare it to something similar not a sports car

I think people's comparisons depend on what their priorities are.

Some will compare it to a sports car because that's the alternative they might buy, tempted by the combination of power and practicality over pure performance (maybe with family considerations too).

Some will compare it to other simiarly-sized SUVs because that's the kind of car they are focusing on and they want to replace.

Some will compare it ICE equivalents, because they are debating whether to go EV for the first time.

Some will compare it to buying a second-hand alternative, because they might go new, they might not.

So I get where you are coming from. Perhaps it is best to explicitly declare the priorities you are using for the comparison - e.g. "Compared to similarly-sized electric SUVs currently on sale..." or "Compared to what else you can buy with £55k...".

 

[LenEV2016]

I think people's comparisons depend on what their priorities are.

Some will compare it to a sports car because that's the alternative they might buy, tempted by the combination of power and practicality over pure performance (maybe with family considerations too).

Some will compare it to other simiarly-sized SUVs because that's the kind of car they are focusing on and they want to replace.

Some will compare it ICE equivalents, because they are debating whether to go EV for the first time.

Some will compare it to buying a second-hand alternative, because they might go new, they might not.

So I get where you are coming from. Perhaps it is best to explicitly declare the priorities you are using for the comparison - e.g. "Compared to similarly-sized electric SUVs currently on sale..." or "Compared to what else you can buy with £55k...".

Agree they are similar to the X Power in respect of power to cost ratio

 

[tonyrome]

I agree my point was compare it to something similar not a sports car

And my point was to compare it to something with similar power!

 

[LenEV2016]

And my point was to compare it to something with similar power!

We are going round in circles here

At the end of the day as a high powered SUV there is hardly any competitors with anything on the market that gives that kit list, power and performance for that money so hats off to MG/IM/SAIC and because of that people will accept slightly iffy safety systems (as has been reported) and potentially poor MG aftersales as is well known in the UK, for what many will see to be a bit of a bargain for the money.

But of you were looking to do a fair side by side comparison it would be with the below subs that all do sub 4 secs 0-60

Volvo EX 90 which is £99k. 106 kWh 270 miles
BMW IX M70. £100k 115kwh real world range 310
Porsche Macan Turbo EV £106k. 100kwh 285 miles
Lotus Eletre £138k. 112kwh 280 miles
Ford Mustang mache e GT £64k. 98.7kwh. 265 miles
Polestar 4 dual £70k. B. 100kwh 300 miles
Tesla model Y performance £55k. 82kwh 285 miles
Smart #5 brabus £52k. 100kwh. 285 miles
MG IM 6 performance £51k. 100kwh 270 miles

On price it would appear the IM 6 performance has two direct competitors the smart and the Tesla and the Tesla manages to be pretty efficient at 3.5 miles kwh, smart 2.85 and IM6 2.7

And just for balance all of the above are cheaper to run than the ice equivalent SUVs with the same performance.

 

[tonyrome]

On price it would appear the IM 6 performance has two direct competitors the smart and the Tesla and the Tesla manages to be pretty efficient at 3.5 miles kwh, smart 2.85 and IM6 2.7

The Tesla Model Y Performance is around £10K more expensive and MG is already knocking £10K off their list price, so the difference may already be £20K! There is nothing which competes with the MG on price.

None of the other large SUV style EVs with huge power outputs you mentioned above are going to be any more efficient than the MG. The Tesla Model Y is more efficient but it's smaller and much more expensive.

And just for balance all of the above are cheaper to run than the ice equivalent SUVs with the same performance.

Which was also my original point, when I compared it to a four-times-the-price Porsche with similar power.

 

[salty]

And despite it's short comings. The lM6 performance. At £41,787 on MG Affinity.
Which makes it an absolute bargain.
In fact if that's the sort of motor your looking for, I'd go as far as to say, it's a No Brainer.

 

[LenEV2016]

Apologies you are correct re the model Y price, I had previously just checked auto trader for brand new Y performance and it turns out it was the old one! They are clearing the old stock for £55k and 2 years free supercharging, not a bad deal of you do a lot of miles with work

I appreciate as you say the Y is a slightly smaller car but having been in both the Y and a IM 6 there is no difference in interior space and boot space.

 

[LenEV2016]

Which was also my original point, when I compared it to a four-times-the-price Porsche with similar power.

And just because I like the last word, below would have been a more realistic comparison, I even made it a Porsche, but it's only 2 and a bit times more expensive

 

[tsedge]

It is a shame you two aren't in an argument competition to win an IM6!

 

[LenEV2016]

It is a shame you two aren't in an argument competition to win an IM6!

Well if the competition is a realistic comparison then

2.5 tonne IM 6 performance/launch edition.

100kwh battery 4wd

Performance
0-62mph. 3.5 seconds
Top speed 149mph
Engine power 741BHP
Engine torque 803NM




2.4 tonne Porsche Macan Turbo EV
100kwh battery 4wd

0-62mph 3.3 seconds
Top speed 162mph
Engine power 630BHP
Engine torque 1,129NM

So the Porsche is quicker, faster top end and more torque.
And to win the arguement I've saved thousands of pounds (£53.5k to be exact) because the Porsche is only 2 times more expensive £107k Vs £53.5k.