...& Auswhy can't these come to the UK now
It's quite possible without changing any hardware. Thru firmware updates alone our SR+ has greater range through improved battery management and regenerative braking than it did when first deliveredCan 2 batteries both with the same kwh produce different ranges?
Yes I’m sure it does show more miles, but the point is 2 batteries with the same capacity will not provide different levels of range unless the associated components are different. A 40kwh battery is a 40kwh battery - that’s what you get - you can improve how well you use it, which is what you allude to - e.g. software changes, config, weight, aerodynamics etc.It's quite possible without changing any hardware. Thru firmware updates alone our SR+ has greater range through improved battery management and regenerative braking than it did when first delivered
Yes I’m sure it does show more miles,
2 batteries with the same capacity will not provide different levels of range
I also run a tesla. The one pedal OTA update was sent out over 12 Months ago (i felt that it transformed driving) to my car followed by several updates some targeting increased range - so I’m fully aware of what can be achieved with software changes. Tesla constantly look to improve efficiencies. I think that the suggested increase in range is around 15 miles? tesla as you know have a different way of calculating the displayed predicted range.Can, and do. Our 2019 SR+ actually drives completely differently to when first delivered, it used to regen brake down to around 30km/hr but now can be one pedal driven & has more aggressive regen as an example. The available window of battery capacity has moved also, so there's less unavailable above indicated 100% and below 0% state of charge. And it's all been through software updates. The way motors and batteries are managed can and does make a difference to delivered not just indicated range.
I can't speak for what MG has done, but it's not impossible.
Correct Cocijo, a "better" battery is irrelevant if the kWh capacity is the same.I also run a tesla. The one pedal OTA update was sent out over 12 Months ago (i felt that it transformed driving) to my car followed by several updates some targeting increased range - so I’m fully aware of what can be achieved with software changes. Tesla constantly look to improve efficiencies. I think that the suggested increase in range is around 15 miles? tesla as you know have a different way of calculating the displayed predicted range.
I am not saying range cannot be improved using the same capacity battery - I’m saying that having a ‘better’ battery with the same capacity on its own will make no difference to the range.
On the face of it the MG update gets +100 miles using the same size battery - I think that we’ve established that they are not measuring this in the same way as before. I’m pretty sure that the new MG will deliver more range by improving efficiencies, but how much real world range that will be is difficult to tell.
There's improved and there's greater, but c'mon 100 extra miles on a 44 kW pack by adjusting software, I wouldn't think so ?It's quite possible without changing any hardware. Thru firmware updates alone our SR+ has greater range through improved battery management and regenerative braking than it did when first delivered
Hi PM, sorry can't help with your question but can attest to the 'workable' nature of the 260 klms range in Australia. We've been able to make it work on all trips, with some planning on ABRP & PlugShare Apps, since purchasing in Nov 2020.Can anyone say if the this Indian updated "longer range" 2021 version cost the same as the previous EV version?
Or if the testing of the increased range was more relaxed hence further distance under ideal condition rather than Real World Conditions?
In Australia we currently have the ZS EV that does 260km on the 44.5 battery. I had just stumbled on the model via the India site which has stated claim of 419km on what appears to be the same battery (though it is "Hi-Tech Battery").
The current version range isn't ideal for me, but workable to get into the EV market due to lack of other options at that price (currently AUD$44k-ish)
Hi @Tim GreenHowever, getting a 100 mile improvement ( say 60%) would be extraordinary but maybe not impossible?
I've taken time to dig a little deeper and downloaded the brochure from the Indian site and finally found the following sub-note relating to the range – *The range figure is based of ICAT certification in test conditions.It was down to them now using a different test for the range - so it's basically pure marketing drivel.
The previous and new test in India isn't the WLTP test btw, I can't remember what the tests were called, it's somewhere else where it was discussed and someone from India enlightened us.