If someones car is plugged in and finished charging and they aren't back, I thought you were allowed to remove it from their car and start your own charge.
It has been configured to lock in the cable to the car with good reason.Can you unplug a car without a key fob to unlock the plug? Unsure about Rapid Chargers, but at home I have to unlock the car and unplug within several seconds, otherwise the plug/connection is locked in...
Done this once, a Kona finished charging, nobody in it, I unplugged the Kona and then charged mine!I've heard/read others saying they've unplugged from other cars that had finished charging on rapid ccs, so am presuming once the charger stops charging the car then the cars socket automatically unlocks.
Anyone got any first hand experience of this?
Hi Stuart, back in August forum member Dave S opened a thread on this very subject which went on for quite a while it was entitled 80% ENOUGH Campaign.Had a great away day at football today. Planned charging from East Lothian to Aberdeen.
Stopped at Forfar 50kwDC charge free and parked in Bon Accord shopping centre and got free charge in Aberdeen(£6) parking.
On way back stopped at Forfar for a top up.
High winds affected my range and Edinburgh city bypass closed at Hillend. Pulled off at Hermiston with 18 miles remaining.
Only to find another mg ZS EV identical to mine parked with the 50kw ccs plugged in with nobody in it.
It’s bad when we get iced but I thought MG owners would know better.
Shame on you!
Took me an extra 1 1/2 hours to get home
Has anyone else had this problem?
Do we post pics of the culprits ?
Maybe this will embarrass them to stop being so selfish!
Well blow me down..... I could have sworn it was 90 but you are right. Was it ever 90 since we both thought so, did they drop it to 75 at sometime without us noticing?75 minutes is the limit, changes to 90 minutes next week, I thought it was 90 and had the £10 fee this week, was in the car, It was Engie , contacted them and Genie refunded the fee as a goodwill gesture , they looked at my history to decide to refund, very good I thought
Another reason to do away with free rapids.Was EVd out of multiple rapid chargers a few weeks ago. Pretty sure the cars belonged to a few locals who lived across from the chargers, but at half 10 at night, and all bar one vehicle charged, there wasn't anyone nearby coming to get the cars off charge.
Very strange as I was convinced 90 mins , so I am glad we are both mistaken not just meWell blow me down..... I could have sworn it was 90 but you are right. Was it ever 90 since we both thought so, did they drop it to 75 at sometime without us noticing?
I'm not against it, it would solve all these people leaving their cars plugged in overnight.
This is an accepted etiquette amongst long-standing EV owners. if you have finished charging you no longer need to be plugged in. I have loads of little business card-sized notices in my car aimed at ICE and EV owners who block chargers. nobody would leave their car parked at a petrol pump would they?Done this once, a Kona finished charging, nobody in it, I unplugged the Kona and then charged mine!
Education is more of an issue than anything else. You are wasting your time remaining plugged in beyond 80%. much quicker to drive to the next rapid if on a long journey.May I throw another option out there, increase the price per kWh once the car reports to the charger that it has reached 80% full.
Actually thinking about it (I don't use them much), rapids don't allow you to choose to only charge it to a certain SOC% do they / or only supply X amount of kWh, maybe they should?
Personally I don't think you should only be allowed to charge to 80%, it maybe necessary for people to get a higher charge SOC.
Also, to put arbitrary limit of 80% is not right as different cars allow different rated charges, think new ZS BMS vs old BMS.
The actual issue is people tying up the charger when they're only accepting a low charge rate, how can this be overcome via pricing.
The actual power consumed must be charged for as that is a directly related cost.
The only other option is to charge for time too or, somehow make the cost per kWh proportional to the rate at which the car is accepting a charge - this would be difficult to "explain" to the customer.
Here's a crazy but fair idea, charge per kWh (but a low marked up price based on AC kWh wholesale cost), then add on a per minute cost to effectively cover the fixed costs of the physical charger.
Make the pricing equal to what it would be currently if you charged at a rate of 50kW.
Let's work out a fair split:
So currently 45p per kWh, if you did 30kWh charge = (30*45)=1350p.
New price: 15p per kWh (30kWh*15p)=450p & (60/50*[email protected]) 25p per minute.
The ideal solution is for DC rapid chargers, to have more than 1 CCS connection that can be used concurrently & just charge per kWh. The first car has priority but the second/subsequent car gets whatever DC power is left over e.g. if the charger is capable of outputting 80kW and the first car is only accepting 20kW, then allow the 2nd car the remaining 60kW.
(Plus allowing cars to be unplugged if they've finished charging)
there is actually a service via an app for this to avoid leaving your number but can't for the life of me remember the name of it.A couple of weeks ago I left my car on a charger while getting groceries. When I returned to my car , someone was attempting to pull out the connector from my car.
Whenever I charge my car at a "public" charger I now put a note on my dash with my phone number. Works a treat. Whenever someone needs to charge their car they can call me.
Not necessary true.Education is more of an issue than anything else. You are wasting your time remaining plugged in beyond 80%. much quicker to drive to the next rapid if on a long journey.
All EV's should come with some sort of basic guide that is universal to all. this is one key rule that most have no clue about! Personally, I only rapid what I need and allow a little extra for peace of mind. Why pay 40p/kwh when I can pay 5 at home?