MG4 - How do I turn it off..?

[tsedge]

The lack of an on/off button in MG EVs is silly.

I don't know who thought: "Let's get rid of the one thing everyone looks for in a car because it will save them an instant and save us 37.5p on a button." but they deserve to be locked inside an MG4 with the Power On function disabled.

Instead of a simple button push at our convenience, we get a complicated seat sensor and footbrake dance, meaning that some functions appear disabled or enabled but they may not be, a power off button that if you stay in the car afterwards means that you can't even operate the electric windows and threads like this one.

It is a bad idea and we should condemn it.

 

[Tuareg]

I love the fact that there are so few manual controls. Just a matter if being open minded to learn something new and very simple.

 

[gary333]

It is if you make it one. And you are right it's never bothered me whatsoever.

Yes, but all you are showing here is that you think your perspective and lifestyle are fully representative of everyone else, and that, if it's not a problem for you, it can't possible be a problem for others. This is the definition surely of ignorance?

The turning off issue is most certainly going to pose a problem for families with babies, kids and partners. Just think about things outside of your bubble and consider other people have different needs.

By using "the logic" of "just get out of the car and lock the doors" gives the person quoting this away as being primarily lone drivers. If you have kids as well as a partner trying to get out of the front and back doors, what do you say. "Wait, everyone, let me get out and press the button, don't try the doors". Okay, yep lets presume kids are going to remember this or even listen, great (yeah right). Right, so I am up out of the car like a whippet, as it's not going to lock once they have tried opening their doors. Yep, button pressed, right, now unlock and go round to get the baby out, check. Place baby in house and now I have to re-open the drivers door (which wouldn't be needed on a "normal car") to reach over to get water bottles, work phone, associated other crap being carried in the centre tray, whoops you've knocked the seat cushion, great, the things turned back on

Let's compare this with 99.5% of cars on the road, stop, press button (or turn key) get out and do whatever the heck you want.

Shutting down other people because they don't have the same experience of the car as "a non-isssue" is the same level of ignorance for people who say "the rear seat belts are fine as the are, it's a non-issue" yes, if you don't have child seats in the back of course it's not much of a problem to you (although my older kids like to moan). But, again, it's a bad design that only affects a sub group of people. Try fiddling around trying to plug a car seat belt in the disappearing seat belt holders with other kids in the rear and tell me you don't find that an issue, this is exactly the same type of issue as not having an off button (i.e. is going to be more problematic for some than others).

 

[nogbad]

It is a bad idea and we should condemn it.

Or, as an alternative view, in a complicated world this really doesn't add up to a hill of beans... You pays your money and takes your choice.

 

[salty]

Not at all. Don't know where ignorant comes from. I'm just giving my opinion, its a forum. I appreciate it's obviously a problem for some. And not a problem for others. Your putting your opinion over.
And I'm giving my opinion. Your obviously not gonna back down and neither am I.
Coz we both think we are right. It's as simple as that, really.

 

[gary333]

I love the fact that there are so few manual controls. Jus a matter if being open minded to learn something new and very simple.

Yeah. It follows the same design school as putting handles on push doors, it’s not a case of learning, it’s simply bad design.

 

[gary333]

Not at all. Don't know where ignorant comes from. I'm just giving my opinion, its a forum. I appreciate it's obviously a problem for some. And not a problem for others. Your putting your opinion over.
And I'm giving my opinion. Your obviously not gonna back down and neither am I.
Coz we both think we are right. It's as simple as that, really.

You said “it’s only an issue if you make it one”, which is not expressing just an opinion, it’s invalidating others.

 

[salty]

You said “it’s only an issue if you make it one”, which is not expressing just an opinion, it’s invalidating others.

Ok, I give up.

 

[Rolfe]

It is when your drive points upwards straight into the neighbours windows like mine. The point is that this is basically functionality that almost every car has (for a reason) that MG’s penny pinching has made life unnecessarily more difficult for zero benefit to the customer.

I'm pretty sure this is a bug rather than a deliberate decision. Maybe if enough people complained they'd do something about it.

In the thread about sleeping in the MG4, after much complaining and fashioning of covers for the lights (we want to keep the HVAC going so turning the car right off isn't an option) we settled on pulling the fuses for the front lights.

This sounds a bit drastic, but it's actually quite easy and literally only takes a minute. They're in the fuse box under the bonnet and once you've identified which ones they are it's not a problem. There are even tweezers in the fuse box to help. Market the two fuses in question for ease of operation. Just remember to put them back before you drive off. Especially if it's getting dark!

I know, it's mad, but it's actually a fairly simple work-round.

 

[nogbad]

Yeah. It follows the same design school as putting handles on push doors, it’s not a case of learning, it’s simply bad design.

Push doors often have handles so that the door can be pulled to close it...

I was teaching design (amongst other things) to post-grad engineering students on Saturday. Design is about compromises; cost, space, priorities, time, use cases, etc. We don't know what constraints the designers were working to, so we can't determine whether it is "simply bad design" or it's a function of the specification and sensible design decisions. That it's not a show-stopper for everyone suggests that it meets the needs of at least some users. If I was on the development team I can think of a few changes I might suggest before addressing this, but my perspective is only my perspective, your mileage might vary.

 

[Tuareg]

Yeah. It follows the same design school as putting handles on push doors, it’s not a case of learning, it’s simply bad design.

Maybe it's a case of some not being able to adapt to small changes in life? Saw lots if that during covid, the screaming, shouting, throwing toys out of prams because large swathes of the population couldn't handle spending 5 seconds to put on a surgical mask and then created all sorts of excyses not to do so. Just 'sayin.

Regarding handles on push doors, do you really find that an issue? Crikey.

 

[siteguru]

Regarding the pull down menu ... this is mine, and it does have a Power Off button. (I remembered a red button - I can now confirm that it is for Power Off. I've never used it though).

 

[MG Clive]

Regarding the pull down menu ... this is mine, and it does have a Power Off button. (I remembered a red button - I can now confirm that it is for Power Off. I've never used it though).

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I want it, lol.

 

[PeteC]

I want it too!

 

[Chrisdriving]

The lack of an on/off button in MG EVs is silly.

I don't know who thought: "Let's get rid of the one thing everyone looks for in a car because it will save them an instant and save us 37.5p on a button." but they deserve to be locked inside an MG4 with the Power On function disabled.

Instead of a simple button push at our convenience, we get a complicated seat sensor and footbrake dance, meaning that some functions appear disabled or enabled but they may not be, a power off button that if you stay in the car afterwards means that you can't even operate the electric windows and threads like this one.

It is a bad idea and we should condemn it.

Tesla?