MG4 vs ID3

[Rolfe]

I said it before, you and Bowfer are a match made in heaven. And I'd like to be a fly on the wall.

 

[unbornidentity]

I said it before, you and Bowfer are a match made in heaven. And I'd like to be a fly on the wall.

Doubt we’d have much to say. Both got lemons of different cars. However, Volkswagen are historically perceived as reliable cars and they aren’t. They are riding on their past.

If you buy an MG you’re expecting to be let down but both score about the same. Cupra are at the bottom… which makes me happy ?

MG comes between Mercedes and Audi. German cars are not king any more. It’s no wonder everyone is so worried about the Chinese.

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[unbornidentity]

One important tip for the OP though:

If you go for an ID.3 (and I’m not saying you shouldn’t, I liked mine), make sure you test drive it at high speed on the motorway. The ID.3 I test drove juddered at high speed as if a wheel was out of balance. The new one I got didn’t. So assumed it was just a wheel balancing issue.

Unfortunately the new Born I had did it too and it never got resolved, even with new tyres and wheel balancing due to the tyres being recalled. It also kept constantly applying and reducing power at high speed using ACC. It was very unpleasant.

I’ve driven two ID.3’s, one had that problem and one didn’t and two Born’s, and one had it and one didn’t. I don’t like those odds! Make sure you try it!

 

[tsedge]

It is somewhat reassuring to hear that it isn't just MG4s that can have those kind of problems.

 

[unbornidentity]

I think it’s mostly down to so much new technology being involved. Everyone is starting almost from scratch. A lot of the driver assistance stuff just isn’t ready yet, but manufacturers are being forced to put them in. If the ID.3 didn’t have lane assist or front assist I’d not have anything negative to say about the one I had apart from the disappointing cheaping down VW were doing. Stuff like not moving the fuse box so basically no glovebox and not reversing the wiper sweep for right hand drive cars. Neither of those will affect the OP though.

 

[siteguru]

I won't be surprised if the hardware/firmware used for many of the assistance systems is the same across a range of cars ... maybe even the same in the Born, ID3 and MG4. (e.g. supplied by Bosch).

 

[samitro]

So I finally managed finally to get the SE SR FL version for 22,000 EUR with 7000 km, 12 months old. The car is being prepared and I'll be having it home in few weeks. Thanks all for inputs and support.

 

[DaevM]

So I finally managed finally to get the SE SR FL version for 22,000 EUR with 7000KM, 12 months old. The car is being prepared and I'll be having it home in few weeks. Thanks all for inputs and support.

Enjoy ??

 

[unbornidentity]

So I finally managed finally to get the SE SR FL version for 22,000 EUR with 7000 km, 12 months old. The car is being prepared and I'll be having it home in few weeks. Thanks all for inputs and support.

Congratulations. If it’s from an MG4 dealer try to insist they update the software to R33 before you collect it. Fixes a few issues and seems very stable to me.

 

[samitro]

Thank you, I told them I want R59, assuming it is available for the SE version as well.

 

[unbornidentity]

Thank you, I told them I want R59, assuming it is available for the SE version as well.

The SE in the UK is R33 but the Trophy is R59. Should be on or the other though.

 

[Rolfe]

R59 is only for the Trophy, you're not interested in it. Make sure you specify that you want R33 or you might get something less useful. Dealers can be reluctant to put R33 on a car that has an earlier version installed, but you have to make them do it.

 

[staarek]

I'm currently on the lookout for a new car, and I was pretty much decided on ID3 but it seems it might be MG4 after all. I was considering ID3 (77kwh version) due to slightly higher range, (supposedly) better overall build quality and longer battery warranty (VW is 8 years/100,000miles) I was mostly looking at 21-22 plates with no more than 25k mileage and all of them seem to have quite high battery degradation, the best one was 92% (7k miles on the clock) and then there was one with SOH of 89%! My 71 plate MG5 battery (50k miles on the clock) is 95% and I'm not "crazy" looking after it either, i often charge it to 100%, i use rapid chargers sometimes, I only make sure it doesn't ever sit with low SOC. TBH i'm not very keen on changing for similar age car with less mileage with worse condition of the battery. I know MG uses CATL batteries, not sure what manufacturer VW uses but i doubt is CATL. Does anyone have any experience with VW battery degradation?

 

[siteguru]

The earliest MG4 you'll get is a 72 plate. If you want a Trophy ER (77kWh battery) then I think the oldest will be a 73 plate.

It doesn't seem easy to hunt down whose batteries VW use. MG's batteries are supplied by a joint venture between SAIC and CATL.

 

[staarek]

The earliest MG4 you'll get is a 72 plate. If you want a Trophy ER (77kWh battery) then I think the oldest will be a 73 plate.

It doesn't seem easy to hunt down whose batteries VW use. MG's batteries are supplied by a joint venture between SAIC and CATL.

Thank siteguru. I'm looking at Extended range so yeah, 23 plate which makes 1-2k more expensive than VW but less mileage and newer car.

 

[Deleted member 2148]

If the car has a rear wiper then it's a model year 23 version so should come with OPD. No rear wiper = no OPD.

Model year 24 with wipers and bigger wheels not MY23.

 

[siteguru]

Nope ... MY22 was the first phase; the second phase of the MG4 (rear wiper, 3rd rear head rest, OPD, bigger wheels on the Trophy) came out in 2023 so was Model Year 23. There have been no MG4 updates so far in 2024 hence no MY24 cars.

 

[Deleted member 2148]

Let’s agree to disagree.

 

[Rolfe]

You can if you like, but @siteguru is right.

 

[Deleted member 2148]

You can if you like, but @siteguru is right.

As I said, let’s agree to disagree.