MGS6 Information & Reviews

[LenEV2016]

The BYD Sealion 7 is probably closest in terms of dimensions (4,830mm long, 2,930mm wheelbase), but the boot space is 520L with seats up / 1,789L with seats folded, and the Frunk is only 58L. The Sealion 7 has an RRP of £47k-59k too, so for a "challenger" brand, it's quite pricey compared to the MG.

Sealion 7 is a challenger for the IM6 and has been used in group tests I've seen.
If we are just going on size and space and not price we could say the S6 is challenger for the im6

 

[NikLiverpool]

I have test driven the Sealion7 extensively since it was a serious contender for me before I placed my for the IM6.
I would not class it as a contender for the IM6.
Plush interior for sure but that's it.
Tech wise same level with my wife's Atto3. 0 levels of automation.
Good performance but nothing to write home about.
Slow charging speeds unless you go for the £59k spec which again is not that fast.
Very, very soft suspension to the point of being annoying when speedbumps are around.

I have not driven the S6 but the IM is another level.

 

[Ecoman]

Another top gear review where I lost count of how many times the word Chinese is written.....

I tend not to take anything top gear reviews say as serious unbiased journalism - they have a very poor track record. No such problems with auto express or car wow though !

 

[Hallix73]

So budget has increased luxery car road tax limit for EV's from £40,000 to £50,000
Good news for most I would say.

 

[tsedge]

And introduced 3p/miles EV tax.

 

[Hallix73]

And introduced 3p/miles EV tax.

I think that had to come at some time due to the duty on fossil fuels.
However the EV Grant saving and road tax saving on cars upto £50k now could really offset that charge over a number of years. I was looking at the MGS6 and also the Scenic Icon but didnt want to pay over £600 a year on road tax.
As long as home charging costs remain very low, EV's are still very cost efficient.

 

[tsedge]

I think that had to come at some time due to the duty on fossil fuels.

Yes, but I would argue this is the wrong time if they want to increase adoption.

However the EV Grant saving and road tax saving on cars upto £50k now could really offset that charge over a number of years. I was looking at the MGS6 and also the Scenic Icon but didnt want to pay over £600 a year on road tax.
As long as home charging costs remain very low, EV's are still very cost efficient.

But you now will be paying £600/yr VED if you do a good annual mileage with the new charge.

Remember: home charging costs might be low but a big percentage of people can't charge at home. For them, this is probably the tipping point that means they will switch back or not go EV due to higher costs.

 

[NikLiverpool]

From what I am reading this change (luxury tax to 50k) will be applied on April 2026 and forward and will not be applied retrospectively.
Therefore if you want to go for the middle and higher spec of the S6 you will have to wait till then.

 

[LenEV2016]

From what I am reading this change (luxury tax to 50k) will be applied on April 2026 and forward and will not be applied retrospectively.
Therefore if you want to go for the middle and higher spec of the S6 you will have to wait till then.

Don't you start paying that in the second year not first

 

[NikLiverpool]

You do; but if the car is registered before April 2026 will it be exempt? Apparently not and when the 2nd year comes you will pay.
What I read is that the 'luxury tax' is one lump sum split between year 2 and 5. Therefore the registration date is when the clock starts.

 

[NikLiverpool]

Right; I may be wrong. I am finding conflicting information on the matter therefore I am going to zip it

 

[Hallix73]

Yes, but I would argue this is the wrong time if they want to increase adoption.

But you now will be paying £600/yr VED if you do a good annual mileage with the new charge.

Remember: home charging costs might be low but a big percentage of people can't charge at home. For them, this is probably the tipping point that means they will switch back or not go EV due to higher costs.

I agree with all of that but if you are buying new and get full £3750 grant that covers 6 years tax.
I can home charge so lucky in that respect and average about 14,000 miles per year.

 

[tsedge]

I agree with all of that but if you are buying new and get full £3750 grant that covers 6 years tax.
I can home charge so lucky in that respect and average about 14,000 miles per year.

But isn't that rather unfair on secondhand buyers and those without home charging - ie poorer buyers?

I can see this further undermining second hand values.

 

[tsedge]

Right; I may be wrong. I am finding conflicting information on the matter therefore I am going to zip it

It will apply to all vehicles registered after 1st April 2025 - that's what I have seen:

"Budget documents state the change to the Expensive Car Supplement to £50,000 is for zero emission vehicles only.

It adds that the change will take effect from April 1, 2026, and will apply zero emission vehicles registered from April 1, 2025."

 

[Miles Roberts CG]

But isn't that rather unfair on secondhand buyers and those without home charging - ie poorer buyers?

Absolutely. I have no idea how they plan to administer this 3p/mile tax - For example, I drive around 18-20k miles per year (£540-600 tax / year potentially), but some of that distance may be in my own (company) car, some may be in a customer's car (eg delivery of a new car, or collecting for service etc), and some may even be outside of the UK (for example if I decide to take my EV on holiday to Spain).

I also drive a few thousand miles per year when reviewing new cars for my YouTube channel, although none of those are registered to me.

How might it work with ex demonstrator cars? Say the ex-demo car has 2000 miles on the clock when sold after 4 months - is the tax for 2000 miles paid by the dealer at the point of sale? Or does the mileage not get checked until the annual service, or 2nd year service (depending on the interval from the manufacturer), or the first MoT point at 3 years old?

I think there could be a rise in "mileage adjustment" services offered by unscrupulous businesses too...

 

[tsedge]

Absolutely. I have no idea how they plan to administer this 3p/mile tax - For example, I drive around 18-20k miles per year (£540-600 tax / year potentially), but some of that distance may be in my own (company) car, some may be in a customer's car (eg delivery of a new car, or collecting for service etc), and some may even be outside of the UK (for example if I decide to take my EV on holiday to Spain).

The eVED consultation document is clear: there are no deductions for taking the car abroad and no account for who is driving: the registered keeper is liable for the whole charge.

I also drive a few thousand miles per year when reviewing new cars for my YouTube channel, although none of those are registered to me.

Then you won't pay for those.

How might it work with ex demonstrator cars? Say the ex-demo car has 2000 miles on the clock when sold after 4 months - is the tax for 2000 miles paid by the dealer at the point of sale? Or does the mileage not get checked until the annual service, or 2nd year service (depending on the interval from the manufacturer), or the first MoT point at 3 years old?

The consultation says that secondhand car buyers have to check what mileage is paid for on the DVLA database and then it is part of the buyer's transaction- ie the dealer could pay or knock money off the deal or whatever mutual agreement is reached. Buyer's risk.

I think there could be a rise in "mileage adjustment" services offered by unscrupulous businesses too...

Yes, probably.

I've posted a link to the consultation in my thread in the General forum.

 

[LenEV2016]

Absolutely. I have no idea how they plan to administer this 3p/mile tax - For example, I drive around 18-20k miles per year (£540-600 tax / year potentially), but some of that distance may be in my own (company) car, some may be in a customer's car (eg delivery of a new car, or collecting for service etc), and some may even be outside of the UK (for example if I decide to take my EV on holiday to Spain).

I also drive a few thousand miles per year when reviewing new cars for my YouTube channel, although none of those are registered to me.

How might it work with ex demonstrator cars? Say the ex-demo car has 2000 miles on the clock when sold after 4 months - is the tax for 2000 miles paid by the dealer at the point of sale? Or does the mileage not get checked until the annual service, or 2nd year service (depending on the interval from the manufacturer), or the first MoT point at 3 years old?

I think there could be a rise in "mileage adjustment" services offered by unscrupulous businesses too...

Not like our government to say they are doing something and it ends up half arsed

 

[Miles Roberts CG]

I've posted a link to the consultation in my thread in the General forum.

Thanks, I've just read through it now.

So when my car is taxed (on registration, if new, or on change of ownership if used, or annually if existing car), I'll have to estimate my annual mileage (18k miles), and pay £540 at the start of the year (in addition to the £195 VED). If after the first year (mileage checked by servicing garage or MoT station and reported back to DVLA) I've done more or less miles than guessed, then I need to pay extra, or if I've overpaid it can be used as a credit for the next year of motoring.

The awkward bit will be when we have courtesy cars / demonstrators, as we'll have to pay up front for a year's worth of mileage, but we usually only keep the cars for 6 months before selling... So unsure how they'll account for varying the annual mileage mid-term with a change of ownership.

 

[tsedge]

Thanks, I've just read through it now.

So when my car is taxed (on registration, if new, or on change of ownership if used, or annually if existing car), I'll have to estimate my annual mileage (18k miles), and pay £540 at the start of the year (in addition to the £195 VED). If after the first year (mileage checked by servicing garage or MoT station and reported back to DVLA) I've done more or less miles than guessed, then I need to pay extra, or if I've overpaid it can be used as a credit for the next year of motoring.

Yes, that's the plan

The awkward bit will be when we have courtesy cars / demonstrators, as we'll have to pay up front for a year's worth of mileage, but we usually only keep the cars for 6 months before selling... So unsure how they'll account for varying the annual mileage mid-term with a change of ownership.

In the section on special life events, they talk about being able to adjust or pay the mileage mid-year for exceptional events. My guess is that dealers will be able to do this, so they can get the money back early.

Otherwise it will make selling demonstrators a bit more of a pain.

I am wondering though: who will pay for all these
non MOT mileage checks? They talk about the measuring place being on the hook for doing it accurately, so I would imagine it will be via OBD2 checks with some suitable software?

Also; what happens when the MOT centre puts the mileage in wrong? Do I suddenly get an enormous bill?

 

[Les burrows]

I to have just read the document and it makes no sense to me at all, surely an up front payments for mileage not yet driven can’t possibly be the right as it come down to guess work unless like Miles has said they credit you for mileage you have not completed.
So would it not be easier just to pay for what you have driven this could get very complicated for leasing companies and the DVLA who I assume will be collecting the payments. A better method would be to submit a photograph of your mileage along with your road tax application, or is the next addition to all vehicles will be something on the lines of a Smart meter.
God help us.
This has not been thought through.
Les